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Interview with Pratik Sankpal- Building A Career as A Company Secretary and Corporate Lawyer
Jun 12, 2023
Interview with Pratik Sankpal- Building A Career as A Company Secretary and Corporate Lawyer

The world of law offers a myriad of career paths, each with its own unique demands and opportunities. One such path combines the expertise of a Company Secretary (CS) and the comprehensive legal knowledge gained through pursuing a Bachelor of Laws (LLB) degree. This dual journey allows legal professionals to navigate the complexities of corporate law with finesse, ensuring compliance, providing legal counsel, and contributing to the smooth functioning of businesses. In this insightful interview, we have the privilege of speaking with Pratik Sankpal, a Legal Manager at ZF Group, who embarked on this dual journey and has gained valuable experience in the field. Pratik's decision to pursue both CS and LLB stemmed from his fascination with corporate law and his desire to explore non-traditional fields within the legal sphere. Join us as Pratik shares his personal journey and explores the intersection of Company Secretary and LLB, and gain valuable insights from his experiences in the realm of corporate law.    1. Please tell us a bit about yourself. Why did you decide to pursue a career in law? How would you describe your law school experience?  After completing my 12th grade, I pursued B.com (so in short din't really do much)  However, during my second year of graduation, I realized that I needed to pursue a career that aligned with my interests. Law was one subject that I was fascinated about and being a corporate lawyer was something that I candidly decided on (as juvenile as it may sound that was it). Seeking guidance from experienced individuals in the legal field and my seniors, I made the decision to pursue an LLB (Bachelor of Laws) and CS (Company Secretary) concurrently. To embark on this journey, I relocated to Pune from my Hometown (Kolhapur) and commenced my studies in CS while pursuing LLB from DES Navalmal Firodia Law College, Pune. This was in 2014. Managing studies for CS and ensuring attendance in law school was always challenging, I still remember choosing CS tuitions not based on the faculty but based on how that would fit my days’ time frame. Attending law school in the morning (7.30 ~ 12.00 -1.00) and then CS classes in the afternoon (2.30 ~ 6.00) was one hectic routine which continued for at least 3 months - 4 months twice a year and 3 years. Now when I look back at it, I realize that the process improved my time management and multi-tasking skills. Speaking about faculty members at CS classes and Law School the experience was overall good. The in-depth knowledge of certain laws viz., Constitution, Drafting, and Contract was beneficial to me in CS exams, and vice versa I remember studying just 1 day before the Company law paper in Law School because I had depth prepared for the same during my CS level -2 exams.  Undertaking LLB and CS simultaneously proved to be a demanding yet immensely gratifying experience. For a mediocre 20-year-old student like me appearing for four exams every year — two exams for law and two for CS was a great teacher enabling me to push my own limits.   2. What motivated you to pursue the Company Secretary (CS) course?   As I said earlier, the realm of corporate law captivated me, drawing my interest towards pursuing the Company Secretary (CS), talking to a few seniors in the field I realized that it held the potential to unlock opportunities in the corporate world. Moreover, the fact that I did not come from a family which had lawyers/advocates, I was certain that I wanted to focus on corporate law and CS offered a pathway to explore non-traditional fields of law viz., taxation, FEMA, Stock exchange compliance etc., that were not commonly found in Indian law schools. Along with the corporate/business laws, it also offered learning of accounting standards, financial management and costing, which increased my financial acumen, and provided a profound understanding of taxation laws. In my view, pursuing a law degree alongside CS offers distinct advantages of its own. The two fields complement each other, and striking the right balance is essential. I strongly believe that the practical examples incorporated in the CS curriculum, combined with the depth of legal knowledge gained in law school, can be leveraged to one's benefit. It becomes crucial to find the right balance in subjects where the two overlap. For instance, law school provided a more comprehensive understanding of Constitutional laws, Labour Laws I remember leveraging those learnings in one of the subjects called Economics, Labour and General laws in CS Level-2 exams covering nearly 10-15 marks easily of 100 marks subject (in a competitive exam those 10 marks are very crucial). Achieving the right balance between the two courses can work wonders for students.   3. Most law students are confused about whether they should invest their time in studying CS as it's a time-consuming course. What would you say to them? When contemplating the pursuit of a CS course alongside law studies, it is crucial for law students to consider the time commitment involved. The duration of a CS course can range from 3.5 to 5 years (or even more) till you become a member of ICSI (Institute of Company Secretaries of India), depending on various factors, a simple one being whether you clear it in the first exams or not (attempts is what we used to call them “cleared in 1st Attempt” was something everyone targeted). When I embarked on this journey, I had a clear mindset that I would devote around 3.5 to 4 years of my career to it. If I couldn't accomplish it within that timeframe, I wouldn't dwell on it. CS – Finals (Level -3) was the only level I failed once and cleared on my second attempt.  Pursuing CS alongside law studies is undoubtedly a valuable addition to your professional profile, but it demands dedication and effective time management. It is crucial to set clear goals and establish a timeline for completing the course and internship, and then work diligently towards achieving that. If you possess strong motivation to build a career in corporate law, becoming a qualified CS can significantly enhance your profile.   4. Could you please share briefly the process/stages an aspirant has to go through in pursuing CS, and what the difference is between a CS lawyer’s role in a company from that of a corporate lawyer?  It's important to note that CS is not just a 3 or 5-year course; it is divided into three levels, each comprising specific groups and subjects that need to be cleared. To pass each group within these levels, you must score a minimum of 40% in each subject individually and achieve an aggregate of 50% for that particular group. If you don't clear a subject or if you do clear all the subjects but the aggregate is not 50% at least, you are required to retake all the papers within that particular group. I still remember (the only failed attempt mentioned above) I had 40% or above in all 6 subjects divided into 2 groups but the individual score in both were 145/300 and 145/300.  One of the aspects that ICSI has really worked on and done good work on is that on structuring the syllabus for the exams, the curriculum is continually adapting to reflect industry trends/requirements. While specific subjects may evolve, corporate law remains a fundamental requirement for all aspiring CS professionals (Company law, FEMA, Stock Exchange laws).  The internship is one aspect of CS that is mandated for every student, currently, the period of internship is 21 months which a student may take during his level -2 or level -3 exams. Internships can be undertaken by the students either at Practicing Company Secretary firms or with Corporates. Completion of the internship for the specified period is a prerequisite before being enrolled as a Member of the Institute of Company Secretaries of India (ICSI). The distinction between the role of a CS in a company and that of an in-house lawyer lies in the nature of their responsibilities. A CS typically focuses on ensuring compliance with legal and regulatory requirements, dealing and advising on M&A transactions, reporting to statutory authorities etc., while an in-house lawyer provides legal counsel on a range of business transactions including contract negotiations, drafting, and litigation management. From CS as a career perspective, there can be a broad classification of Companies: being listed and unlisted. According to statutory requirements, all listed entities and certain public and private companies, are mandated to have a Company Secretary.  In a listed entity, the role of a Company Secretary involves advising the Board of Directors and ensuring compliance with, Listing Regulations, Company Law, and RBI guidelines.  In an unlisted entity, the role of a Company Secretary differs slightly as they are not obligated to comply with SEBI-related guidelines or listing regulations. But the regulations around Company Law, and RBI regulations are still required to be complied with. It is generally observed that in unlisted entities, CS may also handle the legal functions which would include contract negotiations, compliance management, litigation management etc., 5. As a Legal Manager at ZF Group, what does your regular day at work look like? ZF Group is a global technology company that supplies systems for passenger cars, commercial vehicles and industrial technology. As a Legal Manager, my workday is typically dynamic and more importantly diverse in nature handling the CS as well as the legal part of the work. I did my CS internship with ZF and have been here since day 1 of my career of nearly 5 years now and my experience thus far has been fantastic with the Group. A typical day involves engaging in drafting contractual agreements, negotiations of contracts with Vendors/Service Providers, Customers, and ensuring compliance with Company Law, RBI regulations and other statutory requirements. The workflow typically depends on the calendar quarter, certain quarters may require extensive work on the Secretarial side, e.g., after the end of the financial year, closure of audits, adoptions of accounts, filings with the Ministry of Corporate Affairs etc., and some quarters typically revolve a lot around legal work like negotiating contracts, Policy framing, litigation management  etc., The one part of my work I like working on would be the corporate actions viz., advising on structures for transactions, formation of new Companies, buying/sale of an undertaking etc., Overall, my role as a Legal Manager at ZF Group offers me a dynamic and ever-evolving work environment. Embracing new challenges and learning from them has been key to improvement and growth within the organization.   6. What avenues are open to Company Secretaries with a legal background in India? How relevant or useful is an Indian CS qualification in foreign countries? As a Company Secretary with a legal background in India, there are several career paths available to you, firstly, you can seek employment in a company as a Company Secretary or a legal advisor. Secondly, you can join a law firm and work as a corporate lawyer or provide services as a Company Secretary. Thirdly, you have the option to establish your practice as a Company Secretary or a corporate lawyer. With regards to Foreign opportunities, it's important to note that the academic structure in India primarily focuses on Indian law, and additional qualifications may be necessary/mandatory to work in legal functions in a foreign country but I strongly believe the situation is evolving with time and would especially highlight the efforts of ICSI in these regards to mention one would be the MoU with Institute of Chartered Secretaries and Administrators (ICSA), London for reciprocal membership for members of both the Institutes. Nevertheless, even today the experience and expertise gained by Indian CS professionals and their ability to maintain Corporate Governance is highly regarded in many countries, especially in developing countries. With the corporate sector in India experiencing growth including that of the capital and venture capital markets, the statutory authorities are going to rely more on professionals to ensure Corporate Governance and the prospects for Indian CS professionals are only going to improve.  With the MoUs and other agreements being in place by various institutes, the opportunity to work abroad will also see a steady increase in the coming years.  

  • Sumasri Sumasri
Interview with Rachna Shroff - A Career in Gaming Law
Jan 04, 2023
Interview with Rachna Shroff - A Career in Gaming Law

India is waking up to an all-encompassing central law on gaming. From constitutional tools to business imperatives and fundamental rights, the need of the hour is a think tank on this subject, devoted to identifying, evaluating, and brainstorming on the common threads of regulatory know-how across the entire gaming sector in India.  The gaming industry is currently undergoing significant and constant changes in relation to various aspects, such as amendments to state gaming laws, judgments by various High Courts and the Supreme Court of India, and an increased level of scrutiny by various enforcement bodies. It is anticipated that the gaming industry will see more significant changes in its regulatory framework in the coming years. In our effort to share more about gaming laws with you, we interviewed Rachna Shroff, a gaming lawyer who has been working in the corporate industry for more than a decade.    1. Please tell us a bit about yourself. I have been working as a lawyer for over 13 years now. I have had the opportunity to work in different fields, but I found my calling in gaming and technology laws. I am a Gold Medalist in M.B.A - Human Resources at Sri Sri University, Odisha awarded by the Governor of Odisha and H.H.Sri Sri Ravishankar, lifetime president of the University and Founder- Art of Living. I am also a faculty with the Art of Living – conducting Happiness Programs. This is where I owe my success and define myself as a happy successful lawyer.   2. Why did you decide to pursue law?  Law just happened! After 10th grade, I ended up choosing the Arts stream: we already had a family member studying Science, which made me realise that I wasn’t too inclined toward any other stream. When studying Arts, ‘political science’ as a subject interested me. My teachers suggested that law could be a suitable career path for me. So I took the necessary exams and landed in law school. I thoroughly enjoyed the entire journey of becoming a lawyer.    3. What inspired you to pursue MBA after completing your law degree? How has it helped you in your career?  Law has now been combined with so many other streams, especially management studies. Some of the best universities in India today offer law and management courses together. Law cannot be looked at as a linear subject anymore; it has to be studied with other subjects as there is a need for technically advanced minds. Coming back to the question, I wanted to study further but didn’t want to pursue the conventional path of LLM. My family was quite supportive, especially my older sister who encouraged me to pursue MBA. I improved both my technical and soft skills during my management studies. The way one communicates in the corporate world represents oneself, and deals with professionals are some of the major skills that I learned at business school. It enabled me to look at the bigger picture and widened my perspective, which I did not achieve while studying law. An in-house counsel ought to know how big corporations function. You have to connect with the business’s way of thinking and working. I learned to understand the company’s vision and strategies through management studies. While I was working as a lawyer before business school, I observed that most other departments were in sync with each other. However, the legal department often seemed detached from the others such as human resources, operations, finance, etc. After having worked as an in-house counsel for several years, I have an understanding of other departments and the business perspective. This empathy and understanding of each other lead to teamwork, growth, contribution, negotiation, support, and a positive atmosphere at the workplace. Pursuing MBA is one of the best decisions I have ever made. Also, being a law student in business school was quite an interesting experience. There were subjects such as business law which I was already familiar with. I remember teaching my peers the subject during exams.    4. Please tell us what ‘gaming law’ is and how you ended up in this niche sector of law. How challenging or exciting do you find this area of law?  I think life is supposed to happen and it’s happening to me in the most beautiful way. All this while I was looking for my calling and I think I finally found it in gaming laws. I am in love with the sector: it is dynamic and challenging. As to what gaming law is, we need to first understand that there is no particular “gaming law'' in India as of now. The legal basis for gaming in India lies in the pre-independence “Gambling Act” and a few landmark judgments from the Supreme Court, namely, RMD Chamarbaugwala v. UOI, KR Lakshman case, and Satyanarayana case. These cases gave us a rule that if there is a dominance of skill over chance in a game then it will be determined as a game of skill; if profits/earnings result from it, it will not be considered as gambling, wagering, or betting, rather it will be considered as a legal business activity which any organisation can run.  However, the pre-independence Act has given all the States the right to draft their own laws by adopting The Public Gambling Act. Currently, every State has its own rules, which poses a challenge for online gaming operations because there is no common or particular law, and the base is gambling laws which barely provide any clarity on gaming laws.  But, I am sure in the future when we have new digital/data protection laws or online gaming regulations, it will help the gaming industry with its particular set of laws. Then it would be more regulated and less complicated. The gaming sector is booming right now! There is no stopping this industry because people have to understand that it’s a subset of technology law that is growing fast in terms of revenue and market. We have to differentiate it from gambling and consider  respect for the judgements passed by the judiciary. Thus the most important concern presently is a central piece of gaming legislation in the country.    5. Recently, the Online Gaming (Regulation) Bill, 2022 was passed in Parliament. What is your opinion about banning online gaming in several States? Is India anywhere in line with becoming one of the fastest-growing online gaming industries? India is one of the leading countries in Asia in terms of revenues and gamers, however, there has been a ban on online gaming in several States as every State has its own gaming laws. On one side while the sector is growing, on the other we have too many litigations and orders which are resulting in the complete banning of online gaming without any logical basis. Even Supreme Court precedents are being ignored. The recent regulation bill is a good initiative but until and unless the committee comes to a conclusion, we have to wait and watch. I am hoping that they would take into consideration the global view on gaming and there is a balanced approach. The gaming industry has been generating so much revenue, huge amounts of taxes are being paid, employment opportunities have been generated, and more importantly, boosting India’s technological progress. It is an industry that is contributing tremendously to the country’s economy. With the banning of gaming in some states, we desperately need central legislation that provides clarification on how and when a ban can be imposed on gaming and also highlights the difference between a game of chance and a game of skill.  The Pandemic has resulted in an increase in the number of gamers in India. During Covid, the gaming law sector also gained popularity. Thus given the right support from the government in terms of regulations, India definitely is in the race to rule the gaming world.    6. How was the experience as an in-house counsel in the gaming industry, what does your regular day look like? Being an in-house counsel gave me an amazing amount of exposure as you don’t deal with one area of law. Your work includes dealing with litigation, contracts, regulation, compliances, taxation, etc. Apart from that you get the opportunity to train across the organisation, create policies, meet external agencies and work with top-notch counsels. Over the course of time if you stay in a particular industry then you develop the expertise of that industry. It is important to develop academics as well as your soft skills while studying because when you land, you would be learning the work in a completely new way. It would be a restart button when you move out of your college! So better to build your other skills while you’re developing your technical skills. If you ask about my regular day as an in-house counsel then it consists of a lot of meetings, reviewing contracts, ad-hoc calls, emergency meetings, flying down to one city from another to hold meetings and conferences, training my team, and strategizing work. Apart from that, I individually hold workshops and webinars on gaming laws as I have realised that there are very few people who know about this area, especially the young generation of lawyers.      7. What is your advice for students/young professionals who want to pursue a career in gaming law? How can they go about it? What avenues are open in this field? Who are the major players in the gaming industry in India? My advice to everyone who is reading this is to keep calm and not fuss about getting a job or internship because you’ll definitely land where you should. Prioritise upscaling yourself, developing your skills, introducing yourself to self-care techniques such as yoga and meditation, developing hobbies, and developing your personality while you’re developing your technical skills as well. Prioritise developing your soft skills as this will give you an edge over others.  India has over 900 startups in the gaming industry; this is a huge pool. You can work as an in-house counsel or work with governmental agencies on policies helping them draft gaming regulations, or you can associate yourself with a law firm that deals with technology and gaming laws. This is an interesting time to work in this industry as the laws are still developing; there are a lot of opportunities to learn and contribute to the sector. However, please don’t assume that this is an easy-going area of law with little work and great pay. I would like to stress that there are no shortcuts; one really has to work hard in this industry to achieve success. It is not an easy area, it is as hectic and fruitful as any other demanding job today.  Prioritise being happy and then work hard to achieve your goals rather than achieving goals and then being happy. Play sports, go trekking, have a social life, and contribute to society by being kind to people. Don’t wait for somebody to sympathise with you. Land your dream job/internship through your soft skills and personality. Build your skills first, find your area of interest and then pursue it. If you ever need any advice on how to develop your soft skills, reach out to me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachnashroff/. I'll try my best to guide you!  

  • Sumasri Sumasri
Interview with Shubham Borkar- Building a Career in IP Law
Jul 04, 2022
Interview with Shubham Borkar- Building a Career in IP Law

Intellectual Property is not a concept of recent origin. In many countries it was conceptualised in the 1800s, however, it is only in the late 20th century that intellectual property became commonplace in the legal system across the globe. Intellectual Property (IP) is a product of human intellect, that is a creation of the mind - inventions, literary, artistic work, symbols, names, images, etc. One does not get IP rights to an idea, process thought, or story, simply by it being in one’s mind.  In our effort to share more about a career in Intellectual Property Law with you, we interviewed Shubham Borkar, an IPR Practitioner and Consultant at R.K. Dewan & Co. Shubham is currently also pursuing his doctorate from Oriental University, Madhya Pradesh.   Please tell us a bit about yourself. What inspired you to pursue law? My name is Shubham Borkar. I am an Advocate, a Start-up Coach, a Tax / IPR Practitioner and Consultant, a Business Developer, a Legal Author, and also a student of CS (Professional level). I graduated from National Law Institute University (Bhopal) and completed my Post Graduation (LLM) in Business Law and IPR and I am currently pursuing Juris Doctorate JD/Ph.D. in Trademarks Law and Artificial Intelligence. I am presently associated with R.K Dewan & Co. as an Associate in IP Litigation, Prosecution. I have previously worked for Khurana & Khurana Advocates and IP Attorneys, Lakshmikumaran and Sridharan Attorneys. In my school days, I never thought I would become a lawyer. I didn’t possess the requisite skills to become a lawyer. I was more interested in Science than Arts. Like every other child in our neighbourhood, I also dreamt of becoming an Engineer following in my father’s footsteps. To achieve that I sincerely prepared for IIT (JEE entrance). I lacked oratory skills and would shiver if my teachers asked me to recite anything during the morning assemblies. However, while preparing for IIT, my coaching professor, Late. Mr Maheshwari used to have discussions with us after classes on various topics of life. After one such discussion, he told me that I could excel if I pursued law or if I appeared for the UPSC. He said, “You will become a good engineer, Shubham, but I feel you will be a better lawyer or administrative officer”. After hearing him, I gave it sincere thought and started preparing for CLAT after my IIT classes. Over time, I realised that I was able to relate more naturally to legal subjects and enjoyed studying them. I appeared for both Engineering and CLAT examinations, and with God’s grace cleared both exams. But before even the results arrived, I was sure that I would not be enjoying engineering subjects and could not consider seeing myself as one. Thankfully, with my parent’s support, I joined NLIU, Bhopal, and pursued Law.   How did you begin your career after completing your law degree? At what point did you decide to pursue a career in Intellectual Property Rights (IPR)? What sparked your interest in the field?  From the beginning, I wanted to become a lawyer specialising in a particular subject. However, for a Science student, Arts subjects sounded like Latin to me. It was the second year of graduation when my interest was piqued in different specialisations of Law and I became aware of IPR. Since IPR had a harmonious blend of science and law, iI was more drawn to IPR. Thereafter, I applied for an internship with an IP firm. Initially, they were reluctant: being a 2nd-year student and having no knowledge of IPR, I wasn’t a good resource for them, but subsequently, they agreed after my interview. I gave my 100 per cent to learning during that one-month internship. Since then, I was sure of pursuing a career in IPR. After this internship, I went on to intern with all major IPR firms in India.   Currently, you’re working as an IP lawyer and consultant at R.K. Dewan & Co. engaged in both prosecution and litigation work, what does a regular day look like for an IP lawyer? On a regular day, I have a few oppositions, counter statements/PR Responses/ agreements, and similar draftings. There are also enquiries both in-person and telephonically and as a consultant I address their queries, explaining the procedure of applying/registering for various IPs’, its related costs, and other details. Since I work for one of the biggest IPR firms in India, we have dedicated professionals for every task and as a senior, I also allocate tasks to the concerned person depending on the nature of the work. I also appear before the District Courts for hearings, as and when required. Apart from these, I also review all publications of R.K. Dewan. Our firm publishes many articles/newsletters/columns/ chronicles, and all of them are reviewed by our team.   In 2021, there was a remarkable increase in the number of Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Designs, and Geographical Indications published and filed. What are your views on these developments in the country? In one word, promising! India has been continually working on reforming the IP sector. Government and other institutional bodies, whether public or private, are engaging themselves in conducting various awareness campaigns, seminars, and conventions to impart knowledge concerning IP. In the current scenario, even the Common Man is also equally informed about the sector because of the current Government’s policies like Aatmanirbhar Bharat, and Start-up India. All of these initiatives have resulted in this paradigm shift.  Parallelly, the Government has also increased the workforce in IP offices which has expedited the prosecution process.  Internationally speaking, India is performing better in comparison to many developed nations. We are not behind, we just started late in this race.   What are your views on India not having separate legislation for Trade Secrets at a time when everything is going on virtual mode due to the pandemic? In this era of globalization, where companies offshore to various countries for expansion as well as cheaper labour, it is becoming increasingly difficult to protect business strategies and trade secrets. Businesses view technology as secrets rather than patentable information and considering the shift to virtual mode due to the Pandemic, the operations of all the body corporates are dealt with virtually, making it easier to hack the systems thereby enabling the leaking of trade secrets. In India, the only protection that trade secrets have received is through precedents and laws of equity. This absence has always been felt and accordingly, I believe that it is high time that India has its trade secret law.   Indian giant IT companies, such as Infosys, Tech Mahindra, and TCS have started creating metaverse experiences across their verticals. What are your views on Artificial Intelligence owning IP rights? Witnessing the advent of technology and its advancements, we at RKD have already engaged ourselves in filing several trademark applications in the metaverse domain. Metaverse has become the new go-to domain. Every brand out there is looking for ways to explore opportunities that Metaverse offers. IP laws were originally human-centric. However, due to technological advancements, AI is grabbing the limelight. Hence, human-centric concepts like consumer confusion and imperfect recollection, would not work very well with AI technology, due to which there is a necessity to revamp trademark laws to accommodate AI-enabled devices.     How would you suggest our young students and professionals go about a career in IP law? What avenues are open in this field? IPR being a niche field in law, interest in and willingness to join the field is a prerequisite. This field requires the student/professionals to be updated with current laws and technology and to have in-depth knowledge of the subject. I believe that only after interning in this field, young students who are genuinely interested in the subject and its core should pursue IPR as their subject. The current market scenario has tons of opportunities lined up for them, however, this sector is volatile, i.e., initially, it may seem slightly stagnant, and later as one grows, the opportunities are abundant. A career in the field of IPR laws requires endurance and persistence. Avenues like working as a Consultant in a Law firm, working as an in-house consultant for corporations, being appointed as a Professor in a law institution or acting as an independent IPR law practitioner in your firm, are open to young professionals who wish to pursue a career in this sector.   

  • Gaurav Gaurav
Interview with Yash Agarwal - A Career in Public Policy
Jun 27, 2022
Interview with Yash Agarwal - A Career in Public Policy

As a law student or a lawyer, you must have heard the terms such as ‘public policy, ‘policy making’, etc at least a few times.  Have you ever wondered what exactly ‘public policy is, what avenues are open in this field, or what a career in this space would be like? In our effort to share more about Public Policy with you, we interviewed Yash Agarwal, who works as a Public Policy Associate at a renowned social media platform. Yash also runs and leads ‘Public Policy India’, a knowledge platform dedicated to making Public Policy more engaging and accessible for citizens.  Please tell us a bit about yourself. How would you describe your experience at Symbiosis, Pune?  Symbiosis was a great experience. I pursued a BA in Mass Communications, and I majored in Journalism. I grew and learned so much during the three years of college, and I am very grateful for that. The course was fairly interdisciplinary and we were exposed to all kinds of viewpoints and perspectives, which was great. The professors were very chill, and the conversations on campus were rather enriching - there was always something to learn and to do! Moreover, the program that I majored in i.e. journalism was by its very nature open to a lot more inquiry, and worldviews and it fostered a broader knowledge base overall.   How did you begin your career post-undergrad mass communication degree? I would say I laid the foundation for my career throughout three years of college itself in a sense. For example, I did five internships while in college, all of them in different cities and different sectors within the broader policy space, because I wanted a sense of exposure and learning for myself. Similarly, while I was in college, I started reaching out to people in the space and volunteering to add value and work with them in whatever capacity I could have alongside pursuing a full-time education program. But coming back to your question, technically I began my career after college when I started off with the LAMP fellowship, and this is something we’ll come to!   What does a ‘career in Public Policy’ mean? How did you come to specialise in ‘Public Policy’? How was your experience at The Takshashila Institution? When we use the term “Public Policy” here, we refer to the broader umbrella of professions and practices which include policy consulting, policy communications, working in the development sector, working with the government, running a social enterprise, and so on. What a career in public policy essentially entails is working in any of these fields across a range of focus areas and different skill-set requirements.  How I came to discover policy and build a career here was a happenstance! I went to college thinking that I would pursue journalism, but slowly as I read up more, and especially given my habit of reading anything and everything under the sun – I realised I could probably use my knowledge base in other ways. I started off by entering Teach For India in Chennai and went on to do multiple internships while in college with all of them being in different sectors - education, health, gender, law-making et cetera. It slowly gave me a better perspective of the space and how it functions, what is it that I like, and more importantly what is it that I did not find to be up to my alley. Over time I discovered that tech policy is something I genuinely enjoyed the most, and this is something that the short-term program with Takshashila institution assisted me with, helping me gain a firmer academic footing here.   Could you please tell us a bit about your LAMP fellowship experience? How does it benefit a person interested in Public Policy? Ah, it was the best! For context – Legislative Assistant to Member of Parliament (LAMP) is a year-long fellowship wherein you work with an MP for a year on a range of responsibilities and focus areas. One thing that people don’t discuss enough the entire LAMP experience, is that by virtue of being a fellowship-there are large elements of education embedded as well, alongside working of course. While working with a member of Parliament, getting to meet MPs across party lines, and having the company of some of the smartest people I’ve ever known was all great – a big takeaway for me from the fellowship was the phenomenal workshops that were organised for us almost every other week or so with some of the best minds from the space interacting with us and sharing their experiences and learnings. It was one year full of learning, discovery, varied experiences and an eye-opener through and through.   What was your experience like as a Government/Public Affairs Consultant? This is the year immediately after LAMP, I was engaged as a policy consultant with a public policy consulting firm based out of New Delhi. My personal experience was that it was a great place to be at, and with a team that was always welcoming of different perspectives and more importantly allowed one to make mistakes and learn from them. The best part about my experience there was the sheer diversity of clients and mandates that I go to work on. It forced me to learn more but also meaningfully expanded my knowledge base!   What is ‘Public Policy India’? How, according to you, can others benefit from this platform?  PPI is a knowledge and career navigation platform dedicated to the cause of Public Policy in India. The vision for PPI is to create a one-stop hub for all things policy in India. Via our multiple products across different platforms - we focus on this burgeoning section of the Indian youth which is deeply excited by the prospects within Public Policy as a field and wants to build a career in the larger Public Policy space but has no background in the same..  The Public Policy Space in India is on the cusp of a boom - there’s no one dedicated platform which focuses solely on serving such a thriving community with a set of needs of its own - that’s where we wish to be at. When I say “Public Policy”, I mean to include the larger Policy space including - Government Affairs, Policy Consulting, Development Sector/NGOs, Policy Comms, etc.    What do we do?  PPI focuses on two specific outcomes - functioning as a knowledge platform with the aim of making the audience more aware of Policy issues in India and more importantly why they should care about them, via our PolicyGrams. We simplify complex yet highly socially relevant issues in a way the audience understands. These are easy-to-read, visually appealing products in a platform and format of our Target Audience’s choice.   The second prong of our focus is Career Guidance and Support - A range of services and products with the sole focus on making it easier for someone to make a career in the larger Public Policy space. Through our newsletter, ThePolicyPost, we've created an instrument that brings all policy updates, Internships, Courses, and Job opportunities at the touch of a button. Similarly, we’ve started conducting a number of webinars on different fellowships and other such opportunities with experts on our YouTube to allow people to make an informed choice as they approach some of these opportunities.  You can find our work here:  Instagram, LinkedIn, Newsletter, Website   What is your advice for students/young professionals who want to pursue a career in Public Policy? What avenues are open in this field? I’ll share a few principles which I believe could be super helpful for anyone looking to build a career in this space!  Skills - Skills come in two bundles - hard and soft. And the sphere of public policy is centered heavily around the softer, overlooked, intangible skills on your resume. Public policy is entirely a people’s business. That’s just the nature of the craft. How you communicate, manage stakeholders, listen to others, manage time, and exercise interpersonal skills makes or breaks your track record in the sector. All of it really boils down to working with human beings, solving complex challenges together while earning their trust. Now, hard skills - important of course, but much easier to learn and acquire than their counterparts. I did not start off by knowing how to code or design graphics. However, as part of building my startup, I’ve had to learn several hard skills, say, website maintenance for example, and it’s been a breeze. Should the need arise, these skills are something you can pick up. But soft skills? Indispensable and critical right from the word go. Proof of work - The newcomers' greatest blessing and the worst curse. The policy space is unique, in that it cares more for the work you’ve done and the skills you have to show for it, than a degree. Don’t get me wrong - an educational background in public policy remains important and helpful. But in no way is it indispensable, with maybe exceptions like a career in Policy research or academia. So, invest your time in getting your hands dirty in this field. Part-time engagements like volunteering and interning count as well and can be crucial for students who cannot work full-time! The exposure, networks, and on-the-job learning you build just being out there remains unparalleled. Sample it out - Policy is vast and all-encompassing. In thematic focus areas and also skill sets - it needs everyone and has space for all backgrounds, be it a chemist or a chartered accountant. But while that is welcome, it is in equal parts intimidating to figure out where it is true that your niche lies. The opportunity costs of switching between, say, education to tech policy after years of having built a career within the former can be quite steep. It is a good idea, hence, to sample your interests in your early years! Sit with a writing or typing tool and jot down your answer to the question. What is something you do out of passion? Something you would do maybe even if nobody paid you to? Being passionate about what you do, whatever that may be, that’s your deepest competitive advantage! Intern, volunteer, and spend time figuring out what you like and are good at.  In due process, you will know what you dislike which in a field this all-encompassing is great awareness to have. Shun the competition - The policy space in India is still in its early days. There isn’t much that is linear about building a career here. In the US, someone wanting to build a career in policy may have some semblance of paths between a Senator’s office, campaigning for a congresswoman up for elections, interning at the State Capitol, or an advocacy firm. In India, a lot of these are still evolving roles and verticals with limited awareness. But you can turn this perceived disadvantage into opportunities! The lack of preset routes allows you to chart a course of your own with minimal hindrance or cookie-cutter approaches to compare to. In India, simply reaching out to ask for a potential engagement while positioning yourself as someone who can add value yields a genuinely high chance of hearing back and might land you that one opportunity you’re looking for. While there are hundreds of job opportunities in this field that you could (and should!) apply for, don’t be afraid to send out a cold email or get in touch with someone to talk about how you think your skills fit into the puzzle. As cliche as it sounds, you do miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. Add to your luck - Google says, “Luck Surface Area is the amount of action you take around your passion combined with the number of people you communicate your passion too. The equation is L = D x T, where L is luck, D is doing and T is telling.” Doing good work is important, but also being able to communicate the same is a big advantage! Some of our best professional opportunities came our way just because a set of people were aware of our work, passion, and more importantly what it was that we were looking to switch to next. Do good work. Don’t fret talking about it either. You never know what might come your way next!   

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Building a Career in Corporate Law and Making it a Success - An Interview with Harsh Khemka
May 24, 2022
Building a Career in Corporate Law and Making it a Success - An Interview with Harsh Khemka

Working as a corporate lawyer can be a very rewarding and lucrative career path. Despite the continued challenge posed by the Covid-19 pandemic, last year has seen significant activity in the corporate sector, specifically in private M&A deals. With the easing of listing norms and a record number of entities choosing to go public in 2021, the year witnessed the listing of major Indian start-ups, with Zomato leading the trend, followed by the likes of Nykaa, PayTM, and Policybazaar.  Today, corporate lawyers are in great demand and are employed in several organisations including law firms and companies.  We interviewed Harsh Khemka, Principal Associate at Khaitan & Co., Mumbai, who took us through his rollercoaster journey from first becoming interested in corporate law to committing his career to Insurance M&A. After doing multiple internships during his law school, Harsh started his career with Luthra and Luthra law offices, Mumbai, and within 6 years of his professional career,  has become a Principal Associate at Khaitan & Co., one of India’s top law firms.    Please tell us a bit about yourself. What inspired you to pursue law? How would you describe your law school experience? I grew up in Bangalore and come from a business-oriented family. That said, my late paternal grandfather practised commercial tax and wished for someone in the family to become a lawyer. This is one of my first recollections of wanting to become a lawyer. From there, popular culture took over and by the time I reached class 10 in school, movies and TV shows had convinced me that I was best suited to be a lawyer. At the time, I don’t remember wanting to pursue law to achieve some higher purpose - it was just something I felt I would enjoy doing and might be good at.  I went to NALSAR University of Law in Hyderabad. They were some of the best years of my life. As is usually the case, it was the first time I experienced living away from home. I realised early on that I enjoy the independence it brings. Apart from gaining a degree and a job, I learned some of my most important life lessons in law school. I gained a lot of perspective by interacting with not just my professors but also my friends and peers, who came from all across India and overseas. I can say that law school opened my eyes to the world and prepared me for everything that lay ahead.    How did you begin your career post-undergrad law studies?  I had received a pre-placement offer from the Mumbai office of what was back then Luthra & Luthra Law Offices. After multiple internships, I had decided by my third year of law school that I wanted to pursue corporate law. So, I was very happy with the job offer and while I knew I was going to miss Bangalore, I felt working in Mumbai would be a good experience for me. My team in Luthra worked on all kinds of matters – corporate, M&A, debt as well as funds. This helped me get a good grounding in various practice areas. After two years in Luthra, I moved to the Mumbai office of Khaitan & Co to focus on M&A and private equity practice as I wanted my career to grow in that space.     How did you come to specialise in ‘Insurance M&A’? I was staffed on a private equity transaction on my very first day in Khaitan and while I didn’t have prior experience in this field, I took the challenge head-on. As a newcomer and outsider to a large but very well-knit team, I was keen on impressing my team members. With the help of some really helpful seniors, I was able to catch up to the very steep learning curve. In my quest to expand my learning and out of my sheer interest, I volunteered for varied kinds of transactions - one such transaction was a large M&A deal involving two insurance companies. The insurance sector in India is heavily regulated and this transaction was very challenging for me – not only did I have to acquaint myself with the multitude of laws applicable to the insurance sector, but we also had very challenging timelines. This often meant sleepless nights and working weekends. At the end of the transaction, the partner on the deal asked me if I would like to focus more on insurance matters. I had just finished the third year of my professional career and initially felt it was a little early to commit to any one practice area. After some deliberation, I decided to give it a try, as the sector genuinely interested me. The insurance regime in India had just been liberalised a short while before that and there was growing interest in the area. However, at the time, there were very few people at Khaitan and across firms who were specialising in insurance M&A. I ended up being at the right place at the right time and with the support of my partner, a lot of opportunities presented themselves. Over the course of a couple of years, I gained a lot of exposure in the sector through deals, advisories, meeting industry folk, and diligently updating myself about the industry and sector.    Currently, you’re working as a Principal Associate at Khaitan & Co.; what does an average day at one of India’s biggest law firms look like?  That’s the most frustrating as well as the most exciting thing about a law firm - every day is different. While this means that planning ahead becomes a challenge at times, it also means that there is never a dull moment. Borrowing from Newton’s theory of relativity – 12 hours spent drafting a document peacefully (I always listen to some music while doing this) by yourself can seem very different from 12 hours spent on multiple matters jumping from call to call, deliverable to deliverable, and trying to douse the largest fire first.  No day is complete without interaction with teammates – both virtual and while in the office. From exchanging weekend plans, failed diet routines, and movie suggestions to also helping brainstorm transaction structures, vexed legal questions, and complaining (don’t know if I am allowed to use the B-word) about clients – your teammates are with you through thick and thin. My team at Khaitan especially engages in a lot of pranks and banter, especially on the office floor. This helps bring a light touch to what can often be a serious and stressful job.    How is the work culture in Mumbai different from that in other cities in India? What should one know about working in the corporate law sector in Mumbai?  My only internship in Mumbai was enough to convince me that I would like to work in the city. There is something about the city that just makes everyone hustle – maybe it’s the high rents, long travel times, or the large crowds. It seems like everyone is always in a mad rush and running against time. This vibe prevails in the law firms here as well. While the other two corporate hubs, Delhi and Bangalore, have equally talented and professional lawyers, I have felt the culture in Mumbai is to push yourself just a little harder. This may also be driven by the local clients, who may be more demanding than their counterparts in other cities.   But the city has a charm about it which makes you fall in love with it. The song “Bombay meri jaan . . . ” beautifully epitomises this feeling. That said, Mumbai definitely isn’t everyone’s cup of tea – but I would recommend that young corporate lawyers experience the taste for themselves before deciding.    In 2021, India witnessed an all-time high in the number of mergers and acquisitions. What are your views on these developments in the country? It was a great time to be a corporate lawyer in 2021. After the slowdown caused by the pandemic, the market rebounded very strongly. Teams were busy throughout the year with people having to refuse work because of bandwidth constraints. All our overseas clients were interested in the Indian market. Indian start-ups and founders had never earlier had access to this kind of capital. Valuations went soaring and we saw some of the most successful IPOs the country has ever seen. While the market has corrected itself a little in 2022 and we have seen IPOs being delayed, Indian companies and entrepreneurs have made their mark. This will definitely inspire greater innovation and lead to more start-ups coming up in the future. Government policies and regulations on industry and ease of doing business will have to keep up.    What are things that one ought to know about a career in corporate law? (For example: are the hours long and workload high? Is there too much competition?)  Law is a jealous mistress – I have come to realise this right from my law school days. It requires us to constantly read and keep updating ourselves -- most of the statutes we study in law school are significantly modified or replaced by the time we start working (long live the Contract Act 1872). Further, corporate lawyers are professionals and part of the services industry and hence there will always be client pressure. Yes, it entails long hours and constant pressure but is equally rewarding in terms of career growth. Some of this pressure comes from the competition – if we don’t deliver the work product within the requested (read demanded) timeline, then the client will go to someone else next time. So yes, everyone is out there to impress and woo the biggest clients and work on the largest deals. But there is also a satisfaction that one gets to see the transaction they worked on getting reported in the news.  But the pie is ever-growing and new entrants in the industry will be able to get a piece of the action and establish themselves. The increase in funding and M&A activities in India will definitely lead to more job creation and opportunities. So the future of corporate law professionals should be bright!     How would you suggest one go about a career in Corporate Law? What avenues are open to corporate law aspirants in India? Law school these days has started offering a lot of electives and courses on various corporate law subjects. Also, students, these days have access to a lot of online courses, study material, and websites that can help them prepare for a career in corporate law. Taking up some of these courses may help impress during internships and land one a job. But there is nothing that you learn in law school that you can't learn on the job. As long as the fundamentals are strong (basic contract and companies act), any student should be able to manage to crack an interview. Other aspects law students can work on are developing their communication skills and the habit of reading.  I have always maintained that corporate law is no rocket science – hard work, sincerity, diligence and regularly updating oneself will see you climb the corporate ladder.  Even if one doesn’t land their dream job out of college, there is always a chance in the future to move firms – it's fairly common and there will be a lot of opportunities. In fact, corporate lawyers are increasingly receiving opportunities for in-house roles – this will only increase as we see more companies come up and the corporate compliance culture increase. VC and PE funds are also known to hire a lot of lawyers and some of these roles often also involve some business elements. All in all, experience in a corporate law firm is very helpful for anyone looking to work on the corporate side.  

  • Gaurav Gaurav
Building a Career in Mediation and Making it a Success - An Interview with Jonathan Rodrigues
Mar 28, 2022
Building a Career in Mediation and Making it a Success - An Interview with Jonathan Rodrigues

“Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbours to compromise whenever you can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often the real loser — in fees, and expenses, and waste of time. As a peace-maker the lawyer has a superior opportunity of being a good man. There will still be business enough.” – Abraham Lincoln.   Commercial mediation gained recognition in India in 1996 when the Indian Parliament amended the Civil Procedure Code (CPC) and introduced section 89, which empowered courts to direct settlement of disputes by mediation, amongst other means. In India, courts refer a large number to mediation. Even so, litigation remains the most popular mode of dispute resolution.    According to data from the National Judicial Data Grid and the Supreme Court, as of 2021, there were 3.9 crore cases pending in the district and subordinate courts, 58.5 lakh cases in the various high courts, and more than 69,000 cases in the Supreme Court.   Given this, will parties become more receptive to mediation as an alternative method of  dispute resolution? Can the Government provide greater support for mediation? Our interviewee, Jonathan Rodrigues answers some of our questions here.    Jonathan was introduced to law by chance, but his background and interest in psychology led him to pursue a career in Mediation. Jonathan is currently set to begin a new professional chapter in the UK, where he completed his post-graduate studies in Mediation and Conflict Resolution from the University of Strathclyde. Back in India, he led the Online Mediation and Corporate Relations verticals at CAMP Arbitration and Mediation Practice, Bangalore. Importantly, he has been instrumental in setting the context and building a momentum for mediation awareness and education in India, through his New Delhi-based firm, The PACT.    What inspired you to pursue law after first having completed your bachelor’s degree in psychology?   My foray into law happened by chance. I had a media job and loved every thrill of being a journalist. I enrolled for a bachelor's degree in law, probably motivated by my background in psychology, to continue working with people in distress. It surely wasn’t the long-winding legislations and their interpretations or landmark judgments and their precedents that inspired me to study law. I always admit that I was quite lost in law school until I discovered mediation. Mediation allowed me to mix my passion for psychology and the search for justice and peace, to study disputes within people and between people. I was always more interested in the person affected by the dispute than the dispute itself and mediation allowed me to pursue a deeper study of this complex world of disputes.    How did you begin your career post your law degree? At what point did you decide to pursue a career in mediation? What drew you to it? How did you go about it?   In my final year of law school, I knew there was only one way forward – to dive into the world of conflict resolution. So, I registered for a couple of trainings in India, and got certified as a mediator. I began coaching and training some juniors and travelled with them to competitions in Vienna and Paris – this allowed me to network and gain visibility in the mediation community. Back in 2015-16, India didn’t have an effective system for mediation awareness and education and so, with a couple of close friends, Nishant Laroia and Gracious Timothy, we founded The PACT ( India’s oldest and widely recognised mediation awareness and education firm). The initial feedback we received encouraged us to knock on more doors and in 24 months, we had visited nearly three dozen law schools across the country. Further, my passion for writing developed as a former journalist, motivated me to keep blogging about mediation and related topics, which once again gave me visibility and the confidence to meet some fantastic professionals and learn from their experiences in the world of mediation.    What is the scope for mediation in India? Is there enough administrative and legal support for it? What does the future look like?   There is tremendous scope for mediation in India. We often quote the figure of 40 million pending court cases to explain the scope of mediation, but I will go a step further and say we have over a billion potential cases that can be mediated, considering we are a highly opinionated population of over 1.4 billion people – and therefore, 1.4 billion differences of opinion. However, we are impulsively drawn to battle dispute in court and it will take a huge cultural paradigm shift to see more Indians embracing mediation as a primary step to resolving conflicts. .    The Mediation Bill, 2021, which is currently navigating the legislative corridors, mentions that parties seeking relief in civil and commercial disputes will have to mandatorily attempt two sessions of mediation before beginning court proceedings. I welcome this statutory obligation as it will surely serve in creating mass awareness about the value of mediation. The Bill also values an authentic mediated settlement agreement on par with a court’s decree, easing enforceability and bringing finality to the dispute.    Let me be honest here – an honourable, skilled, and confident lawyer will refer and counsel their clients in mediation, after assessing that the case is suitable for mediation. However, if the lawyer has unethical orientations towards the profession, the lawyer will dispassionately attend the two mandatory sessions of mediation (mentioned in above para) without any intention to guide the client towards an amicable settlement. Therefore, I strongly believe that the lawyer community and judiciary will continue to be gatekeepers of mediation in India, at least, for another decade. We must keep celebrating the true ambassadors, the legal practitioners who are showing the rest of the fraternity that they can continue to live a handsome, yet moral lifestyle by integrating mediation advocacy practice into their general litigation/arbitration practice. At CAMP, we created a campaign titled #CALM to Celebrate Advocates and Lawyers in Mediation; India needs more of such campaigns.    You are familiar with the mediation ecosystem in India and the UK. What are some of the differences you see between the two?    The populations in both jurisdictions, both disputing parties and their lawyers, love to fight a battle in court, the old-fashioned way. You shouldn’t be surprised to know that in the UK as well, the struggle to professionalize mediation services is real. Nevertheless, there are more established mediation institutes and service providers in the UK, in comparison to India. Further, independent mediators are not shy to market their services and invest in branding exercises that help them generate visibility for the services they provide. In comparison to India, there are more universities in the UK that offer specialized courses and postgraduate programs in Mediation, which not only help nurture a new breed of collaborative lawyers but also invite professionals from other fields to train and be certified as mediators. India is fast catching up and is an inspiration to other developing nations in the world.    In my understanding, the Mediation community in the UK has embraced that the profession is richer when approached from a multi-disciplinary perspective. Look at the folks at TCM London for instance, and what they are able to achieve by promoting formal and informal conflict resolution services through an organic, human approach. TCM has successfully taken mediation to private and public entities by offering considerable attention to the ‘person’ affected by the problem, besides offering experts to resolve the ‘problem’.    How receptive are people and corporate entities to mediation, in your experience? If there is any reluctance in taking the mediation approach, what could be the reasons for such reluctance? What are some of the major challenges you face in this field?   The trends are encouraging. I am seeing many leaders of in-house legal teams and senior management officials of corporates not only growing curious but also daring to explore mediation as a primary tool to dispute resolution. CAMP Arbitration and Mediation Practice in India is working closely to create the demand for mediation by offering webinars and training, besides customizing pilot programs for corporates to get hands-on experience of mediating and settling disputes. One of the biggest struggles is to bring parties to the mediation table and this struggle can be tackled by having standalone mediation clauses or mediation clauses as part of a hybrid mediation clause (with arbitration or litigation) which will allow for parties to explore mediation before opting to go down the adversarial path. Corporates are not wrong to be apprehensive about mediation, considering its novelty. However, I feel these concerns about mediation can only be resolved by awareness – when they learn more about the process and how their peers  have benefitted from the process.    What is your suggestion for students/professionals who want to pursue mediation? What are the avenues open to them? Follow Your Fire! If you believe that collaborative conflict resolution thrills you more than any other practice area or profession of interest, then dive into it. Immerse yourself into the subject – train, read, attend conferences and webinars, network, intern, observe mediations, co-mediate with senior mediators, and eventually get yourself empanelled as a mediator.  More importantly, you have to be willing to contribute to the greater cause of the mediation movement in India. Learning to collaborate with the larger community and build the market for mediation is necessary to keep up the strong momentum that mediation has gained in India. If you treat mediation as an after-dusk hobby, then you will not experience what it really means to be a professional mediator.  Passion, knowledge, and skills are important to consider a career in Mediation, but the daily essentials are the courage to take risks and the resilience to chase the uncertain road ahead. 

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Building a Career in International Law and Making it a Success - An Interview with Shravan Yammanur, Advocate
Mar 21, 2022
Building a Career in International Law and Making it a Success - An Interview with Shravan Yammanur, Advocate

International law consists of rules and principles governing the relations and dealings of nations with each other, as well as the relations between states and individuals, and relations between international organizations.[1] Resolving disputes between nations and parties residing in or doing business in different countries can be highly complex. International law regulates the global commons, such as global communication and world trade. With globalisation at its prime, international laws have proven to be important instruments in promoting peace and order among nations. Shravan Yammanur, Advocate began his career in international law by joining the chambers of Mr. Rajiv Dutta- a Senior Advocate at the Supreme Court of India and an arbitrator. This interview with him aims to give you an idea of building a career in international law. In this interview, Shravan also answers some questions relevant to the current global scenario.    Please tell us a bit about yourself. What inspired you to pursue law? I am a lawyer based out of Delhi focusing on disputes resolution and policy. My practice consists of commercial disputes before courts in Delhi and investment treaty arbitration.   My interest in international relations led me to pursue law- I realised that international law played an important role in regulating international relations and felt that a thorough understanding of the law would enable one to influence international relations and policy-making.   How did you begin your career post your law degree? At what point did you decide to pursue a career in International Law? What drew you to it? How did you go about it? During my time at the National University of Advanced Legal Studies (NUALS), Kochi, I realised that my interest was not just limited to international law and was actually in dispute resolution both domestic and international, which required similar skills of advocacy. This led me to join the chambers of Mr. Rajiv Dutta- a Senior Advocate at the Supreme Court of India and an arbitrator.  As I said earlier, I was always keen to have a career in international law even before law school and I completed a diploma in international law and diplomacy at the Indian Society of International Law while I was a part of the chambers of Mr. Dutta.  I was looking for opportunities in international law after I spent a few years at the Supreme Court and was selected for a legal advisory position at the Department of Economic Affairs, Ministry of Finance. India had just terminated a large number of its old generation of investment treaties and commenced negotiations with a number of countries for new investment treaties. I got the opportunity to be part of these negotiations with a significant number of countries and to advise India on several disputes arising from investment treaties. In addition to the work on investment treaties, I was also involved in formulating India’s position on international investment policy at G20, BRICS, and WTO.   As a former member of India’s negotiating team for International Investment Treaties, what are your thoughts on India’s stand on RCEP membership?  India took a calibrated stand based on the geopolitical situation and the nature of the commitments contained in the RCEP Agreement. India already has an FTA with ASEAN as well as bilateral FTAs with Japan, Singapore, and Malaysia. Recently, there has been a lot of momentum in finalizing a bilateral FTA with Australia as well. The commitments under RCEP would not help India achieve fair and balanced trade unless India is in a position to also take advantage of FTAs by creating a strong domestic industry. The disadvantages of joining the RCEP Agreement far outweighed the benefits at that time. India can always join the RCEP Agreement at a time when it suits India’s interests and RCEP members have publicly stated that India is always welcome to join RCEP.    How receptive are states and corporate entities to ADR, in your experience? If there is any reluctance in taking this approach, what could be the reasons for it? What are some of the major challenges you face in this field? States and corporate entities have adopted ADR as the preferred mode for settlement of disputes and arbitration has become the ‘go to’ dispute resolution mechanism. We can see arbitration as the standard dispute resolution mechanism in contracts entered into by corporate entities and States including treaties. However, in my experience, while States wish to explore mediation and negotiation as modes for settlement of disputes often there is a lack of appetite due to the involvement of public money and political factors. This means that an award from an arbitrator or a decision of a judge is easier to implement for States than exploring meditation or negotiation. States should create a structured mechanism to empower officials to use mediation and negotiation for dispute settlement.   What, do you think, went wrong between Russia and Ukraine?  What do you think could have and can still be done to resolve the conflict?   The course of actions that led to the present regretful situation between Russia and Ukraine is a matter of record. Enough has not been done to ensure peace in the region, peaceful means of resolving the disputes were clearly not implemented and this led to a lack of trust by both sides. The use of force and the threat of use of force cannot lead to a peaceful resolution of the conflict. Instead of using the good offices of world leaders to resolve the dispute, there seemed to be an antagonist approach by countries from outside the region. The present conflict can only be resolved by mediation or negotiation, the recent meetings in Belarus are encouraging and should be supported by world leaders in order to resolve this conflict peacefully. Hopefully, the common heritage of the Ukrainians and Russians will allow both sides to resolve this dispute soon and prevent the further loss of lives and property.   What is your suggestion for students/professionals who want to pursue a career in  International Law? What are the avenues open to them? The avenues for a career in international law are many for students/professionals as they can become academicians, government officers or advisors, work at international organisations and tribunals, private practitioners, or arbitrators/mediators.  International law is complex and multifaceted today. Globalisation has increased the commercial and political interactions between countries leading to the growth of both public and private international law.  In areas such as international investment and trade law, practitioners or academicians need to study both private and public international law. Now companies and private individuals equally require support in navigating the complexities of international law in addition to States. Students/professionals who want to pursue a career in international law should obtain a strong foundational knowledge of the fundamentals of international law but focus on specialisation in the area of law which interests them as there are a growing number of professionals who practise international law- this can be in the form of an advanced degree in a specific subject or working with specialists in a subject.   References [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/international_law

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Abhishek Subbaiah on being an in-house counsel, working in various law firms and founding a law firm
Sep 08, 2021
Abhishek Subbaiah on being an in-house counsel, working in various law firms and founding a law firm

Going independent as a practice or establishing and running your own law firm is no easy feat. Of course there is the advantage of self-employment and the ability to profit directly from your own efforts, but the risks are equally high. There are a number of things to be taken into account and a number of challenges to be met. We interviewed Abhiskek Subbaiah, the founder and managing partner of Bridge Legal to learn about his journey from working as an in-house counsel in the banking sector to working in a number of law firms in different cities, to currently heading his own law firm in Bangalore.   We also asked him about the qualities he looks for in candidates interested in working or interning at Bridge Legal. Read on to find out!   1. Please tell us a bit about yourself. Why did you choose law as a career path? How was your experience in law school? I head a firm known as Bridge Legal along with my two Counsel, and the three of us bring years of experience in different aspects of law to the table for our set of niche clients. I graduated from the National Law School of India University in 2013 and have since worked in a multitude of large organisations including law firms before I figured that there’s no existing business model that incorporates my unique strategies – strategies that now form a core part of the philosophy of Bridge Legal. I chose law as a career because it rewards those with strong fundamentals in language and logic – two pillars of mine that I wanted to and continue to leverage to make my professional mark. Law School was, like most of my experiences with the Indian paradigm, less than ideal in almost every sense, but I’m always critically analysing our professional and educational systems, so this view may come across as being slightly negative even though my perspective and intent is borne out of a constructive set of objectives. Things seem to be changing now, but let’s just say that I’ve never been a supporter of our education system, even (or maybe especially so) at the upper echelons.     2. You began your career with banking law. What does a career in banking law entail?  Banking law entails grasping a lot of knowledge with respect to regulatory procedures and protocols, while also engaging and utilising fundamental concepts such as contracts principles, property law, and classical financing documentation drafting. It’s essentially a good base that creates a good foundation no matter what sectors or industries one ends up specialising in. Money and property permeate every kind of market, really. From a career standpoint, some choose to go deeper into the industry, and I know for a fact that there is always a dearth of good banking and finance lawyers especially at the mid-senior level, so there’s scope to grow into specialised roles for those looking for such a career.      3. It is not very common for lawyers to move from in-house roles to law firms, although the other way round is fairly common. What made you switch to a law firm?  (Laughs) I constantly heard that in-house roles aren’t ‘real lawyer’ roles and also that an in-house lawyers’ experience is discounted when shifting to a law firm, so that provocation combined with the fact that I wanted to learn as much as I could intrigued 24-year-old me. I didn’t mind the extra money either – Mumbai is an expensive city to live in. My first interview with a law firm occurred more than two years after I started working, as opposed to a campus interview, so having the leverage of specialised experience finally made such interviews balanced (I didn’t interview with law firms during college placement).   4. What was the nature of your role in the various law firms you have worked in? Well apart from a brief stint with one law firm that was absolutely atrocious, my other roles involved acting as a wingman to my Partner on transactions – versatility and quick learning combined with a solid work ethic was always my selling point. It wasn’t just traditional banking and finance either – I was always pushing and allowed to push for mandates that involved technology, overall management, and negotiation in niche areas.      5. You have worked in many different cities in India. How do these cities differ in terms of work culture?  Well things are balancing out somewhat now but I don’t see all cities functioning at the same level of professionalism when it comes to the legal services industry (this is now changing, however – a lot of people, me included, are attempting to change the tier-2 or even tier-3 landscape). Many units of large firms in tier-2 cities essentially act as tertiary / auxiliary units apart from a few practice areas and it’s never a good feeling constantly being in the back-end; I’ve noted this to be the case across different cities although my primary experiences lie in Mumbai, Hyderabad, and Bangalore. Mumbai has its own feel, so does Bangalore – apples and oranges if you ask me and there’s no clear way to describe the differences without unfairly generalising.   6. What is the story behind ‘Bridge Legal’? What are the challenges you have faced so far as a law firm founder?  Necessity, really. No organisation in Bangalore or Bombay offered the level of flexibility in terms of practice areas, billing rates, and client engagement that I deemed and deem to be a prerequisite to the next stage of disruption, so I decided to do it myself and chart my own path that reflects my philosophies and ideals. Challenges include a very traditional industry that believe it or not is highly cartelised and entrenched and typical founder challenges such as branding and marketing (which is a special level of challenge since we cannot advertise, which effectively helps the incumbents). I can’t complain much, though – it’s been a great ride thus far and our clients are really happy, with the list continuing to grow. One notable challenge is of course cost structures, since we don’t have the benefit of economies of scale that large factories have and instead choose to work as a small team of experienced lawyers. We’re expensive, and the Indian market is very slowly coming to terms with the true boutique model that offers high quality and customisation – think Patek Philippe as opposed to Rolex or Creed versus Chanel, it takes a mature and nuanced market to understand the differences and value proposition deltas between the two types of brands.        7. As a founder and recruiter, what do you look for in candidates looking to work or intern at Bridge Legal? For work, the biggest question is what one’s business plan and client base is – it goes without saying that the experience and fundamentals need to be strong. We don’t hire, we partner. Our clients know this as well – apart from the occasional apprentice and / or intern on a transaction, we’re all true Partner (equity) level professionals. For interns, I usually look for sincerity, grit, and most importantly, hunger. I’m biased towards those from smaller cities and non-metropolitan backgrounds. Internships are equally our duty to manage and impart education via, so as long as the fundamentals are in place, my biggest restriction is usually the number of interns I can bring on board depending on bandwidth. Like I said earlier, we don’t follow economies of scale, so naturally the selection process becomes very difficult and I have had to say no to a lot of promising, amazing students.  

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Working as an In-house Counsel - An interview with Debosmita Nandy
Jul 01, 2021
Working as an In-house Counsel - An interview with Debosmita Nandy

The number of organisations creating in-house legal teams in order to reduce dependencies on top law firms is increasing at a fast pace. This growing trend is in pace with the increasing number of regulations that corporations are expected to be in compliance with, which among others include labour, data privacy, tax regulations, etc. For some organisations, it makes more financial sense to have their own in-house function rather than engaging external lawyers and firms. What is clear is that there are a lot more in-house opportunities now, than there were a few years ago. Take a look at LegalBots.in 'Jobs' page, and you will understand what we are talking about! So, are you cut out for an in-house legal role? How is it different from working in law firms?  We interviewed Debosmita Nandy, who currently works as an in-house counsel at one of the top private companies in India, ITC Limited, to learn more.    1. Please tell us a bit about yourself. What motivated you to join the legal field? How was your law school experience? I am an in-house counsel at ITC Limited. I am also keen on writing, having written both academic books and short fiction. Now I author a practical legal blog called The Five Things Checklist, where I provide practical tips about being a lawyer in checklists of five items.   As a young girl, I was greatly moved by the novel “To Kill a Mockingbird” and decided to pursue a career in law. Hailing from a middle-class family, my family could not fathom a career beyond engineering, medicine and chartered accountancy. It was an uphill task to convince them, but my parents eventually came around when they became aware of the possibilities.  I was lucky to clear my first entrance examination and get through the National University of Juridical Sciences, one of the best public law schools in India. This was the pre-CLAT era, where every college used to conduct its own entrance test.  The five years that followed were, without a doubt, the best time of my life. Apart from the study of law, I learnt valuable life skills, formed life-long associations, experienced hostel life and got a chance to thrive as an individual.     2. How did you begin your career in law? When did you decide to move to an in-house role from a law firm and why? I got an offer to join the dispute resolution team of Khaitan & Co, one of the foremost law firms in India in Calcutta in my campus placement. The next three years were a very steep learning curve for me, having no prior idea about the practical sides of litigation. Over time, I became conversant with the nitty-gritty of litigation and learnt valuable lawyer skills like drafting, briefing, and appearing before a court.   Then I heard of an opportunity at the in-house team of ITC Limited and decided to explore it. My decision was mostly driven by the fact that the ITC in-house team is one of the most well-known in the country and I was keen for the next challenge in my career.    3. What does an in-house legal team at a big company such as yours do? What are the responsibilities entrusted to it?  Any in-house legal team is the legal and regulatory gatekeeper of a company. We are supposed to ensure that the company is compliant with all laws, and defend them when any question of non-compliance arises. We are also supposed to identify risks in the company’s activities and help in mitigating them.   Next, in-house teams ensure that the company’s interests are protected in its contractual obligations.  And lastly, in the event of any litigation, in-house teams form the first responder team to defend the company.    4. What are the challenges faced by an in-house counsel? Also, what are the biggest challenges faced by you as an in-house counsel in light of the pandemic?  I would say that the challenges faced by an in-house counsel are the same as those faced by any lawyer, new in the profession. Our lack of practical training in law school requires us to adapt to and learn in our profession quickly. The initial years are high-stress because we are all trying to get our foot through the door. However, once we have gotten an understanding of our roles and responsibilities, it becomes easier to handle our work.  My biggest challenge working remotely in the pandemic stems front the fact that I am the mother of a young toddler. Managing her expectations, separation anxiety, coupled with household chores in the absence of any support and work from home set up proved to be challenging for me. Of course, with the passage of time, now I have managed to find my groove with remote working and my daughter ‘sends me off’ to my home office after I have spent the early morning with her.      5. How would you tell our readers about the difference between working in a law firm and with independent counsel? Who is an in-house role more suited for? There are a few key differences between working in a law firm versus working in-house : Law firm lawyers are specialists, in-house lawyers are generalists. As an in-house lawyer, you are supposed to understand the business of your company very well. Operations, marketing, finance, sales, processes, IT - every other function has its role to play in a company. Once we understand them all, we are able to advise the company better in answering their day-to-day operational queries. You have to own your advice and even assist in their execution. However, as a law firm lawyer, you can provide your opinion by adding disclaimers. You are usually not responsible for the execution.  In-house teams go beyond the law to provide their advice. Not every answer is found in the pages of a bare act or ratio of a judgment. A lot of business rationality comes into the picture while advising. Not so for a law firm lawyer. They only have to analyse the law and provide advice.  To answer the second leg of your question, I don’t think there is a fixed set of personalities for whom one type of career would suit more than the other. The law firm or in-house - they are two sides of the same coin. As long as you enjoy the law, you will find ways to find joy in work in any path you choose.     6. Can you tell us a bit about your website (legal blog) and YouTube channel “The Five Things Checklist”? The Five Things Checklist is a practical legal blog, where I write articles on the practical aspects of being a lawyer, based on my 12+ years of experience. Topics range from contract drafting to litigation management to career to productivity tips and practical ideas. My idea is to bridge the gap between what you learn in reputed law schools in India and what you ought to know when you join the profession.  The Youtube channel is my repository of videos called “Mentospeak” where I chat with senior lawyers from diverse backgrounds to get their insights about the many opportunities that a legal education provides.    7. Can you tell our readers about your short stories? Please tell us about your writing experience and how it has helped you as a lawyer. I have been writing short fiction since I was young. Publishing in school magazines and children’s newspapers led me to take writing more seriously. There was a time when I used to maintain a popular literary blog and put up my short stories there.  My first stint in traditional publication came through a short piece in the Chicken Soup for the Indian Soul - On friendship. My short story “The Unseen Boundaries of Love” won second prize in a contest by Rupa Publication and was published as part of the anthology “An Atlas of Love” by Anuja Chauhan.  Later, another of my stories “She Chose to Live” was published by Readomania in their anthology “Defiant Dreams”.  The opportunity to write books on Forest Laws and Environmental Laws arose in my college. I collaborated with a professor and colleagues from college to author and edit these books. They were a great learning opportunity for someone like me who is always keen on writing. Presently, I am working on my first novel.  Writing has immensely helped me as a lawyer, because, at the end of the day, one has to tell a story in a pleading or a contract. My ability to visualise how a plot turns has allowed me to imagine risks and pitfalls in a contract and how a court may interpret my facts. Of course, one doesn’t have to write stories to be a good lawyer. As long as you hone your knowledge of writing crisp, clear, persuasive, coherent, logical pieces, you will turn out to be a good draftsman.  

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Sports Law in India - An Interview with Manu Bhardwaj
Jun 10, 2021
Sports Law in India - An Interview with Manu Bhardwaj

Somewhere we are all sports geeks, having played our favourite sports or having watched sports personalities ace it at their sports. However, the percentage of people pursuing this profession is less than the sports aspirants out there. Now, what if we said there was a way to breathe sports as a lawyer?  We wanted to explore this underrated area of law in India, and Manu Bhardwaj, a practising Sports Lawyer, helped us understand more. Read to find out how and what goes into this side of law and what avenues are open to a sports law aspirant.    1. Could you please introduce yourself to our readers?  I am a second-generation lawyer, having been born and brought up in Delhi. I completed my BA. LLB from one of the top 5 law schools in Delhi NCR, University School of Law and Legal Studies and Guru Gobind Singh Indraprastha University, in 2019. After that, I pursued an LLM in Entertainment, Arts and Sports Law from the University of Miami School of Law, one of the best law schools in the United States with a partial scholarship.  I worked with Senior Advocate Mr Sushil Dutt Salwan for a couple of months and am now working as an independent litigator, emphasising sports law matters and contract drafting. On a personal level, I play football semi-professionally and do part-time stand-up comedy as well.    2. What is Sports Law, and how did you end up choosing Sports Law for your Masters?  Instead of viewing Sports Law as a branch in itself, one should think of it as more of an amalgamation of different areas of law to get more clarity on the concept of the subject. Sports Law includes but is not limited to Contractual Law (for the various agreements/negotiations involved in transactions related to commercial sports), Intellectual Property Law (for the registration of Trademarks/Copyrights/Patents required for various teams/leagues/players etc.), Criminal Law (for Anti-Doping regulations) and even Alternate Dispute Resolution (for any and all disputes arising between the organisations, clubs, players, clubs and the agents involved in any sport). So basically, sports law is an umbrella term for various spheres of law involved which aims to solve the legal issues pertaining to both professional and amateur sports. The decision to choose sports law for my Masters was fairly easy as I have always been a sports person and a sports enthusiast. I have played multiple sports throughout my education and have been an ardent follower as well. I was always keen on understanding the functioning of the sports industry in the country and even on an international level. In the third year of my Law School, when I started reading about the subject, my interest grew organically, and I was sure that I wanted to be associated with the Sports Industry. Since I was not playing professionally due to my below-average skills, my best bet of being in the industry was as a sports lawyer.    3. What was your approach while narrowing down to universities to pursue LL.M in Sports Law? Please tell us something about your LLM experience.  At the time of my applications, not many top universities provided an LLM in Sports Law, even at the international level (There were none in India). Naturally, I focused on the top sports law courses around the world instead of the best universities and narrowed it down to a list of top five courses. Out of these five, the LLM at the University of Miami intrigued me specifically because it was a one-of-a-kind multi-dimensional course involving three spheres of law, i.e., Entertainment, Arts and Sports Law. The modules of the course looked interesting, and to be honest, studying in the beautiful city of Miami was also a major consideration. Even though I got through three different Universities in different countries, I chose the University of Miami because of the nature of the course. Further, receiving the Dean’s Scholarship came in as a big relief for my financial constraints. The experience exceeded my expectations by a margin. The course was insightful, and there were a plethora of interesting subjects to choose from. The EASL Department of the University of Miami School of Law was stacked with a world-class faculty of very well renowned professors in the industry. Their modus operandi to impart knowledge to the students was something I had never witnessed previously in our country. Moreover, the course was designed to have special lectures every week with various prominent industry experts/lawyers/agents or even players coming in to engage with the students and give us insights into the functioning of the American entertainment and sports industry. Another feature of the course was the field trips to various stadiums where the students met the in-house legal department of various world-class teams of various sports. Overall, the experience was overwhelming, and it is tough for me to describe it to anyone. It was more of 'you had to be there' scenario.    4. How would you describe the emergence of Sports Law in India? If I’m being modest, the emergence of Sports Law in India has been very slow-paced and highly disorganised. After the 1984 Asian Games, the Government has time and again showed interest in formulating a proper structure for the governance of sports through the National Sports Policies 1984 & 2001 and The National Sports Development Code, 2011, but to little success. Most amateur and professional sports are governed by National Sports Federations of that particular sport recognised by the Ministry of Youth Affairs and Sports. While other authorities such as the BCCI or the Sports Authority of India (SAI) play an important role in the grassroots development of Sports. The Anti-doping laws are enforced by the National Anti-Doping Agency whereas, match-fixing and other criminal offences related to sports fall under the purview of the Indian Penal Code, 1860. There is a lack of proper structure to the Indian Sports Law Legislation. With the emergence of new areas such as E-Sports, a global billion-dollar phenomenon, an organised Sports Law Legislation is the need of the hour. The fresh buzz around sports law by law schools & lawyers has been a welcome change, and hopefully, in the coming years, we will have much more clarity in the Indian Sports Law Scenario.   5. What components of the law are essential to know if one wishes to pursue a career in sports law?  I believe having a strong command over drafting and negotiating sports related contracts is the most important component for a commercial centric career in sports law. However, the Anti-Doping Laws, Betting & Gambling Laws, Competition Law, and ADR are just as important. Further, one must have a strong foundation of the basics of Copyright, Trademark & Patent (IP Law), which makes comprehending Sports Law much easier. Media and entertainment law is another niche legal area that touches upon a few aspects of sports law, such as broadcasting rights & sponsorships. Finally, Human Rights Law is also an essential component of Sports Law, which would enable a lawyer to assist the aggrieved athletes.     6. What is your view with respect to the evolving landscape of Anti-Doping laws in India? From the excessive doping in the 1982 Asiad to the 2010 Commonwealth Doping Scandal, India has faced many challenges pertaining to doping by the athletes. It is still far from keeping all its professional athletes completely clean. The establishment of the National Anti-Doping Agency in 2009 has been a welcome change but has not been as successful as expected. NADA has implemented the World-Anti Doping Standards without considering the divergent issues faced by the Indian athletes, as many of them come from rural backgrounds. This is why most of the doping cases in India have been due to lack of knowledge instead of actual mala fide of the athlete to have a professional edge over other athletes. In many instances, the athletes have tested positive for doping due to their over-the-counter medicines or cosmetic products.  According to the former NADA Chief, A draft of anti-doping legislation has been submitted to the sports ministry, which tackles issues like criminalisation of the offence, liability of the coaches, exemption of certain over the counter medicines. Hopefully, once enacted, the Bill would be successful in tackling the Indian doping menace in compliance. He would get India at par with the legal framework of other countries in handling doping.   7. What shortfalls do you think are present in the Indian landscape of Sports Law? As I mentioned in one of the previous answers, there is a lack of national legislation on sports to govern all the aspects of Sports Law, which has rendered a lot of ambiguity in the functioning of the various agents involved in the industry. This legislation shall aim to create a Sports Commission in India under which all the NSFs shall be registered and shall be held accountable for their functioning. This national legislation shall see the floor of the Parliament on a priority basis since multiple issues need immediate resolution for sports injuries, liability issues, the issue of employment of athletes, infringement of media ethics etc.  There have been many instances where athletes have had no proper legal recourse or representation in disputes with the authorities from international to district level. In cases of match-fixing and illegal betting, the measures taken by the concerned authorities have proven to be insufficient and unproductive. Certain athletes have been victims of sexual harassment during their training by the coaches & staff, but they have not been provided platforms to make complaints or pursue legal action.  E-Sports has not yet been considered a Sport under the Union List and falls under the category of Entertainment which has led to massive blunders such as the exploitation of the Indian E-Sport Athletes at the Asian Games 2018 due to the absence of any recognised NSF for E-Sports. There is also a general lack of awareness of athletes about their legal rights, which leads to them signing exploitative contracts with sports agencies and clubs.  It is abundantly clear that a structured and stable national sports legislation is a one-stop solution to most of these shortfalls in the present landscape of sports law.   8. How would you suggest one go about a career in Sports Law? What avenues are open to sports law aspirants in India? Well, to begin with, law students should try to gain as much knowledge as they can about the subject through various courses, diplomas, or even full-fledged masters, like I did. Boutique Sports Law firms are operating in the country, and one should try their best to secure an internship with them. Further, writing research papers/articles/blogs about the field would be very beneficial since reading material is sparse. Networking with Sports Agencies, Athletes, and other colleagues involved in the industry is a must.  As the paradigm is shifting from cricket to different sports with the introduction of new leagues, there is a lot of scope for a new generation of sports lawyers as the ever-dynamic sports industry is growing at an explosive pace for which they would surely need legal assistance at every step. 

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Practice in Electricity Laws - An interview with Mukund P Unny
May 21, 2021
Practice in Electricity Laws - An interview with Mukund P Unny

The Electricity Act, 2003 was brought in place to consolidate laws relating to the generation, transmission, distribution, electricity supply, trading and use of power and electricity and take measures for the development of the electricity industry. One may think about what lawyers do when they practice in electricity laws and what work goes in there. To answer a few basic questions, we have Mukund P Unny, an advocate practising electricity laws in the Supreme Court, Delhi High Court, Appellate Tribunal for Electricity.    1. Can you please introduce yourself to our readers? I am a practitioner of law based in Delhi. I work largely in the areas surrounding civil and commercial laws. A substantial part of my work is revolved around the Supreme Court, the High Court of Delhi and other Tribunals and Commissions. As a law student, I am interested in academic areas like comparative constitutional law, electricity law and insolvency law. I am also a regular columnist for various publications, and my work has been covered in Indian Express, Livelaw etc.   2. Was pursuing law a conscious decision after school? How would you describe your law school experience? I say that I am an accidental lawyer. As a school student, I was interested in journalism and economics. I wanted to do economics and then take up journalism to be a financial journalist. After my XII exams, I was primarily thinking of joining IIT Madras for their humanities course. IIT Madras had a tough entrance exam called Humanities and Social Sciences Entrance Examination (HSEE). Unfortunately, or fortunately, I missed the date to apply for this exam. As luck would have it, I happened to clear the CLAT and could join the National University of Advanced Legal Studies, Kochi (“NUALS”). Over a period of time, I started liking law as a subject and did not think twice about jumping into the profession after graduation. College life was exciting since many opportunities were thrown at us, academically and otherwise. I was able to be part of various seminars and moot court competitions. In NUALS, we benefited from having a mix of experienced law teachers and practising professionals as faculty members. I believe, therefore, that the students were exposed to the practical side of the law in the college itself. My university also encouraged internships. As a matter of fact, I was able to do 9 internships at various places, including corporate firms like Khaitan & Co., J Sagar Associates etc.   3. Did you start your practice immediately after graduating from law school? Why did you choose to practice? What is your area of specialisation? Yes, I started my practice a few days after my enrolment as a lawyer. I had known towards the end of my college life that litigation is going to be my career. In fact, internships helped me arrive at that decision. I had done almost 5 different internships in corporate law firms. But it was this one litigation internship towards the fag end of my education convinced me to take the robes and litigate. My areas of specialisation are electricity laws and insolvency laws.   4. What is electricity law? How did you venture into this area of law? India’s power sector has a valuation that runs into billions of dollars. Certain distinct laws govern the power sector. The important statute that regulates the power sector is the Electricity Act, 2003. However, various rules and regulations are formed by quasi-judicial bodies working under the Electricity Act, 2003. This set of laws regulate the electricity sector- right from the prescription of tariff to multi-crore power purchase agreements. I started my practice in a chamber that had substantial practice in electricity law. Being a technical subject, I had great difficulty in navigating through the subject. However, over a period of time, I got a grasp and developed an interest in this area. I have been able to appear and argue electricity matters before the Supreme Court, the Appellate Tribunal for Electricity, various State Commissions and the Central Electricity Regulatory Commission.   5. What kind of cases can one expect in electricity laws? Cases can be aplenty in electricity practice. For example, there can be disputes between the consumer of electricity and the electricity distribution company on the enforcement of a contract; there can be disputes between the producer of electricity and its distributor regarding the enforcement of the power purchase agreement. The disputes also vary from the fixation of tariff to various intricate technical issues regarding compliance with the electricity distribution companies and generating companies. It is important to note that the fixation of tariff itself is a big area. The electricity price is not the same for all the consumers. The price you and I pay for the electricity usage in our house is different from the price a large industry pays. Various modalities go into the fixation of tariff, and the electricity company does not do the same. Only a State Commission can fix the electricity tariff. After looking into various aspects, the electricity company will have to submit a tariff petition to the State Commission and the Commission; after looking into various aspects, fixes tariff for various types of consumers. The practise area is vast and offers a lot of opportunities for young lawyers.   6. Which has been the most challenging case you’ve worked on so far? Could you shed some light on it? The most challenging case regarding the electricity law has been one arising over a tariff dispute between the Andaman and Nicobar Administration and a diesel plant operating in Port Blair. This was my first electricity law brief, and I say this was the most challenging because I was new to the subject. The claim of our client viz. the diesel plant operator ran into around Rs 200 crores, and the documents ran into thousands of pages since there were 2 rounds of litigations that went up to the Supreme Court. This stream of law is a lot about computation, but figures did not appeal to me much. The challenge of understanding the nuances of the law and accountancy took the larger part of my time. The case was before a bench presided over by Justice Rohinton Nariman. We got a favourable verdict from the Supreme Court. I believe that I was able to assist my senior to the best of my ability.   7. How can fresher graduates venture out to practising electricity laws? What avenues are open to them? There are many premier law firms where the energy sector is at the core of their practice. Many smaller firms are also emerging since the sector is expanding in India. I can say with conviction that this sector is booming considering the vast investments made by the Governments and companies in the renewable energy sector. Fresh graduates are placed better to get opportunities to join law firms in the years to come. It is generally seen those power companies do not directly hire from campuses since they are not exposed to such a niche law in college. But many of my friends from the bar have chosen to take up in-house assignments after joining the profession. Therefore, if the fresh graduates wish to take up in-house jobs, they are better positioned to navigate after putting in some years in practice.

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Judicial Clerkship in India
Apr 28, 2021
Judicial Clerkship in India

Research and legal writing is not everybody’s cup of tea. It takes an immense amount of patience, learning, understanding and skilful articulation. But for those of you seeking a career in this direction, a ‘Judicial Clerkship’ could be an experience unlike any other. Here, we present to you an interview with Vasudev Devadasan, a graduate from Jindal Global Law School and ex-Trilegal, where he talks about his journey and experience as a Judicial Clerk, one of the most aspired job roles for anyone who is serious about a career beguiled with legal research and writing, particularly in the precincts of a court. He also enlightens us about the application procedure and his learnings from this remarkable opportunity.   1. Please tell us something about yourself. I am a 2018 graduate of Jindal Global Law School, one of the top private law colleges in India. Law school was really a time for exploration; I participated in a wide range of moots, took courses ranging from contract drafting to constitutional theory, and took my first legal writing steps through blog and journal publications. After graduating, I joined the Corporate, Finance, and Restructuring team at Trilegal Mumbai, one of the top 25 largest law firms. It was excellent and enjoyable exposure to transactional law. Still, my long-term interests lay in the field of public law and legal theory, so I eventually decided to apply for a judicial clerkship under Justice Chandrachud, a former judge of Bombay High Court at the Supreme Court of India.    2. What exactly is judicial clerkship, and why did you apply for it? A judicial clerk assists a judge with the varied legal and administrative tasks assigned to them. You work directly under a judge, and a clerkship typically involves legal research, writing short notes on points of law, and briefing the judge on upcoming hearings. There are a couple of reasons one may apply for a clerkship: increased familiarity with Supreme Court litigation practice and procedure, understanding judicial reasoning and writing, or exposure to the varied law fields the Supreme Court engages with. Personally, I chose to clerk to understand how the Supreme Court engages with democratic processes (e.g., the right to information and freedom of speech, election law, legislative proceedings, and judicial review).         3. What is the procedure for applying for judicial clerkship? How long did it take for the whole procedure to complete? How challenging is it, and who should apply for it? The Supreme Court conducts a written examination for clerkship applicants. You can also apply directly to the office of a judge. This typically requires you to be slightly entrepreneurial and track down the exact email id to apply to. The best way to do this is to reach out to former or present clerks at the Supreme Court, and they can guide you on the specific procedure to follow. My application process was fairly rigorous. I submitted my CV, a statement of purpose, and a writing sample followed by an interview. You can also intern with a judge for a few weeks (even full law graduates can do this) and then apply. This is a great way to understand what a clerkship entails and also for the judge to assess your work. I would not want to generalize, but anybody interested in practicing at the Supreme Court or pursuing research centered around the Court should definitely consider applying. A clerkship is typically for a year from July to the following May, so the best time to apply is between February and April, with appointments typically confirmed in May and June for the upcoming year.    4. Can you please describe your work as a judicial clerk? What was/is your day to day routine? What was expected of you? The work done by a judicial clerk is very judge specific, so you should definitely either intern or speak to former clerks of the judge you intend to work under to get a clear understanding of what your clerkship experience may look like. Under Justice Chandrachud, our work largely fell into three buckets: preparing briefs for upcoming hearings; research on judgements the Justice was writing; and assistance with speaking and academic commitments. Justices at the Supreme Court hear over 150 cases a week and up to 60 cases on a single day. So preparing briefs for upcoming hearings well in advance is a time-bound challenge. Luckily for us, Justice Chandrachud would wake up very early in the morning to prepare for court, which allowed us to work into the night and prepare material for him to read the next morning. This typically involved accurately and succinctly summarising the factual circumstances and written submissions of cases assigned to the Justice. Certainly, be prepared for long hours and grueling weekends. Legal research is largely self-explanatory, although it is important to note that because the Supreme Court is often required to decide novel points of law, research is often expansive. Where Indian doctrine is under-developed, we would often look at other jurisdictions and academic work. It goes without saying that the standards for research, legal writing, and presenting your arguments are extremely high. As the apex court, judgements must settle the present dispute but also settle the position of law coherently.       5. What are the advantages of judicial clerkship for one’s professional growth? As a professional, your research and writing skills become finely tuned. The opportunity to present an argument succinctly to a Supreme Court judge in an informal setting is an invaluable experience for any lawyer. You also gain exposure to both Supreme Court procedure (e.g. admissibility, hearings, and reviews) and varied subject matter. My clerkship saw me engage with insolvency, consumer, and environmental disputes, core questions of civil and criminal procedure, and constitutional law. You are free to attend hearings and watch the nation’s top lawyers engage in advocacy. At a macro-level, you also gain insight into how the Supreme Court functions as an institution, legally and administratively. This is invaluable for aspiring academics and researchers.    6. What should judicial clerkship aspirants do to make sure they get the clerkship? If you are interested in a clerkship, the best thing you can do is intern with a judge for a short period. You will familiarise yourself with the judge’s office and the present clerks. Having a broadly competitive CV and good analytical and presentation skills, and the ability to put in long hours are essential. At the same time, familiarity with Supreme Court procedure will help you hit the ground running. Depending on the judge you are applying to, you may be asked why you are interested in clerking and what your future plans are.     7. What do you aspire to do next and how do you think this experience will aid you? I am presently applying for an LLM, one of the top 10 most professional degree courses in India and intend to pursue a career in research and teaching. My area of interest is the interaction between courts and democratic processes, and the clerkship has been invaluable in this regard. Under Justice Chandrachud, I worked on defection disputes, right to information cases, and cases concerning secularism and the freedom of speech. My clerkship has provided me with a unique insight into how courts view their role within India’s constitutional framework. You also witness the legal and institutional strengths and weaknesses of the Supreme Court, which are not always apparent from the outside.   

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Business Development after law school - Interview
Apr 01, 2021
Business Development after law school - Interview

Studying law in law school, and pursuing it after law school is one's choice. A few start their practice as litigators, and a few start as corporate lawyers but is anyone a less of a lawyer if they pursue a different non-law domain after law school? The answer is no, and this interview is here to clear the air.  Business Development in Law is a real thing but only the most underrate at this point. Here, in this interview, Akanksha Bisen, a lawyer tells us about her journey as a Business Development Professional and what drove her to pursue this non-law domain.    1. Please tell us a bit about yourself.  I was born in Delhi but brought up in a small but now famous town, Gorakhpur. I graduated from the Army School, one of the top best army schools in India way back in 2007 and came to Delhi to pursue my commerce degree from Gargi college. I pursued LL. B from the Faculty of Law, Delhi University, and completed my Masters in Business Laws (MBL) from NLS Bangalore. I am a health freak and a martial artist. I love dancing and graduated in Kathak. My first love is writing, and I am into Hindi and English Poetry. I am a sucker for diverse experiences and that probably explains my interests in traveling, books, food, languages and cultures.    2. What inspired you to take up law? How has that changed over the years?  Many factors, actually. Being the first generation lawyer in my family is one of them. It is always great to have a black and a white coat in the family. My dad being the holder of the white coat – I opted for the black one. On a serious note – I always had a knack of knowing and appreciating the legal nuances. That later just spilled over my vocational side. In my extended family, we have had lawyers and judges. My discussions with them during family get-togethers led me to legal studies. Much before I studied law, I read books on constitutional law and it fascinated me. At a practical level, I believe that commerce and law are a potent combination.  To answer your second question – I think the notion that if “you are a lawyer, you must just practice law” is changing. There are so many newer avenues that one can opt for.  I come from a time when my seniors and peers gave me looks for not taking the obvious route. Now I get a lot of questions filled with curiosity – Oh, that’s interesting, I want to know more about it. I notice a sea-change in the perception and acceptance to lawyers opting offbeat careers and I love it. Today, there are several other unconventional career options available for the lawyers including but not limited to journalism, policy analyst, content creation, and management consultancy.   3. Was there any particular factor that motivated you to incline yourself towards Business Development after working as a legal advisor? While studying for my masters and working as legal consultant, I realised and felt the nexus between business and laws.  The course taught me how businesses get impacted by laws in several ways throughout their journey. My inquisitiveness increased on how new businesses are changing the world and how organisations are changing their working styles and processes to move forward in the competitive world. This ignited a spark in my mind to learn more about businesses, which led me to pick-up a job with a business consulting firm post my studies and a brief term at a litigation firm. During my consulting stint, I learned more about start-ups, franchising, fundraising, marketing, and the best retail company in India. My role was to provide business and legal advisory services to a wide variety group of clients from small start-ups, e-tailers and the world’s biggest retail companies. After spending three years at a consulting firm, I realised that my business advisory skillset can be best put to use in the topmost prestigious law firms. That’s when I took up a role at Phoenix Legal. I was heading their BD department and was responsible for identifying growth opportunities in national and international markets, managing marketing and client relationships.  As a BD Associate, one needs to be well-versed with the basics of digital world including but not limited to top specialization in digital marketing i.e. Search Engine Optimization (SEO), Social Media Optimization (SMO), networking, etc.   4. Aren’t you bothered by the fact that this job profile is a bit different from your degree of study?  I am completely at peace with my choice of career. My early professional life taught me a lot about strategy and business development. The day I realised this is something I wanted to do – I never felt like I was ‘working’. I love what I do.   5. How has been your experience as a legal professional and a Business Development professional? How different have these two job profiles been?  These are both different fields and depending on your interest it could either bore you to death or you may feel you are just getting started.  For me, it felt pretty much the same – you research, keep your mind open, practice and learn something new every day.  The difference is that – you are not billed hourly, do not use legal paper, and mostly do not pull all-nighters.  As a lawyer, you are solving the complex business problem from a legal angle. As a BD professional, you are solving a business problem from strategy, growth and marketing angles. Therefore, you will be applying some real-life learnings and involve certain application-based activities to increase the business of any organization.   6. As a lawyer, what scope does Business Development have? Do lawyers have an edge over others in this domain?  Business development as a field within the legal industry is growing and gaining traction. As law firms mature and increase in size, the scope of marketing and business development will grow further. An individual can start at the entry-level and graduate to become the head of business development eventually.  As a lawyer, I understand a legal practitioner’s limitations and the laws. I speak to them in their language. As a BD professional, I understand the market opportunities, the rapid speed at which the world is changing. I am a constant learner by virtue of this profession.  Of course, this is a niche vocation and generally requires a lot of other skill sets. Being a lawyer, I do feel that we have the edge over others from non-legal fields. We have an eye for detail, and we do read between the lines; we are better negotiators and great at stitching impressive deals.  Having said that, I believe it is a very individualistic thing. Folks from non-legal fields also have their own experiences and skillsets. I totally believe that they also have an edge over us in certain fields. In the end, soft skills hold paramount importance in the field of Business Development. This is one such field which doesn’t demand a particular set of educational degrees. Associates come from diverse background such as finance, administration, marketing and communication.   7. What would you suggest to budding lawyers who are looking forward to opportunities that aren’t entirely law-related, especially in Business Development? How should one go about it?  I am not great at giving advice, but I can share what worked for me. I tried everything and then figured out what I wanted to do. Being a lawyer and coming from a middle-class family where you have road maps laid out for you, I explored my options and settled for what worked for me. It is always important for us to explore all the options, after removing the limitations posed by our educational background. I very strongly feel that we are all artists once we figure out what our ‘art’ is.  Artists are great because they do what they love and what they are meant to be doing.  So, my only suggestion would be - In a generation of professionals, be an artist.   Know more about Business Development in Law here.

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The know-how to becoming an Advocate-on-Record
Mar 22, 2021
The know-how to becoming an Advocate-on-Record

Adv Ritesh Kumar has been practising law for over 18 years now. He is a first-generation lawyer, who began his career working under a senior advocate and is now an Advocate-on-Record and partner at KRN Law Offices in Delhi. In this interview with him, we trace his journey, the challenges he faced and how he overcame them to carve a successful career in litigation, with an emphasis on his AOR experience.    1. Please tell us a bit about yourself. I am Ritesh Kumar, an Advocate-on-Record in the Supreme Court of India. I completed my law at one of the top law schools in India, Campus Law Centre, Delhi University, in 2002. I am also a litigating lawyer having worked alongside Senior Advocates and Standing Counsels in Delhi for close to eighteen years. At present, I am a  Partner in  KRN Law Offices, based out of Delhi.   2. How has your journey been as a lawyer who started in 2002? Things in 2002 were very different! The Internet was an alien concept then, and whatever research we could do was limited to the available resources in print. We did have a broadband connection but back then, we didn't have instant results through Google, as we have now. The knowledge that we needed could be gotten only through the library's four walls or by consulting our seniors, peers, and colleagues. As a student and as a lawyer, I didn't think that a day like today would come into existence. I was unsure of my future and my career when I graduated from law school. As a first-generation lawyer, things were even more different because I couldn't build networks, make contacts like how people do it today! The struggle that I witnessed to understand this profession without any leads and guidance was one of its kind, something I still cherish because it has taught me to strive and work harder. In 2002, there were very top law firms in India. Hence a majority of the graduates joined under senior advocates. I also worked under a senior advocate, and I got this job before I graduated, with the help of my best friend and his uncle, who connected me to a senior advocate for the job. This is how I started my career, even before enrolling myself with the Bar Council. However, it had its cons since I couldn't appear before the court or do anything that an advocate could do. I did a lot of administrative work, interacting with people who worked at the Delhi High Court, the largest high court in India and the Supreme Court registry. I learned how to file things in court, get the certified copy of an order, what forms are required to be filled in the court. It occupied me for a while, and soon after enrolment, I had a little more clarity about what I am supposed to do. I started dealing with clients, drafting pleadings, and I believe my life had a turning point after becoming an advocate. Things have not been the same ever since. I had the privilege to work under Justice Siddharth Mridul, who was then the Standing Counsel for Union of India and currently the Judge in the Delhi High Court. I worked the longest under Mr. Amarjit Singh Chandiok, Senior Advocate. All these experiences led me into practicing as the Standing Counsel in the Supreme Court from 2013 to 2019, where I worked closely with various ministries and departments. When I started, I didn't think I would be here, so the journey, to sum up, has been a very sweet one, up till now.   3. Why did you choose to become an AOR? My first senior, who I worked under, Mr. Ajit Kumar Sinha, was an Advocate-on-Record (now he is a Senior Advocate in the Supreme court of India), and it is through him that I indulged in working at the Supreme Court. Starting from the Supreme Court can be tricky because you can't learn the complexities unless you are well-versed with basics. However, working under Mr. Ajit gave me hands-on experience dealing with Supreme Court matters and their functioning. It is then that I came across the AOR exam, one of the toughest examinations in the fields of law. In Delhi, there is no dearth of opportunities for a lawyer. It is the only city with the District Courts, High Court, the Supreme Court of India, and many major tribunals that make it the best city for lawyers. Keeping this in mind, I thought becoming an AOR would help me in my professional career and practice as a litigating lawyer. Even though there is no restriction on an advocate to practice in any of the courts, one cannot appear in front of the Supreme Court without representation by an AOR. Many of my friends have been AORs before me, and this also inspired me to take up the exam and try becoming one. I wouldn't say it was a very easy thing for me to do. It was challenging. The exam was tough, but I got through it, and what was deemed challenging back then is reaping fruits as of now.   4. Who is an Advocate-on-record? What do they do, and how do they differ from advocates who are not AORs? Article 145 of the Constitution enables the Supreme Court to make rules and regulations. Even though the Advocates Act and State Bar Councils govern an advocate and his practice, the Supreme Court's things are governed by the Hon'ble court itself. The AOR is a designation in the Supreme Court of India, responsible for filing cases on behalf of any party in the Apex Court. The Supreme Court rolled out this designation under Order IV of the Supreme Court Rules, 2013 (previously Order IV, Rule 2, Rule 4, and Rule 6 of the Supreme Court Rules, 1966). As per these rules, no other advocate other than the AOR is entitled to file an appearance or act for a party in this Apex Court. No other advocate can appear or plead in any matter unless he is instructed by an AOR or is represented by the AOR in this court of law. This is how they differ from advocates who are not AORs, to put simply.   5. What is the procedure of becoming one? Are there experience-related pre-requisites to becoming an AOR? One needs to qualify the exam to become an AOR. The AOR exam is conducted by the Supreme Court on an annual basis, while the requirement is that the person has been enrolled with the Bar Council for not less than five years and should have an active practicing experience of at least five years. Once the exam is qualified, they become eligible to file a case, plead the case and appear on behalf of parties even in the Supreme Court, which other advocates are restricted to do. A year of training under an AOR is also a mandate, which can be commenced only after a four-year practice in the court. Hence, the five years of practice can be 4+1 to appear for the exam. You need to produce a certificate from the respective State Bar Council for the experience to be present on the record. The AOR must have at least ten years of experience of practicing in the Supreme Court to train the AOR aspirant. There are four areas which should be focussed on while preparing for the exam. They are - Drafting, Professional Ethics, Preparing for Practice and Procedure, and Leading cases. The exam has questions around these four areas, which are monumental for an advocate to practice directly in India's Supreme Court. I also had a subject called "Elementary Practice of Booking and Accounting," which I had to prepare for when giving the AOR exam. This subject isn't included anymore. The Supreme Court publishes certain study materials on its website, which are important for an aspirant. The question paper is set by the Senior Advocates and examined by them as well. Even though the paper is not made by any central body, the emphasis on the practical aspect of law makes it difficult for the aspirants to get through this exam. It is said that only 18 to 20 percent of the aspirants get through this examination. Another obligation on an AOR is that he/she should have an office chamber within a 16km radius from the Supreme Court and a registered clerk in the office.   6. How has becoming an AOR helped you in your professional trajectory? Are there any benefits attached to this distinguished job role? Becoming an AOR has made it easier for me to practice in the Supreme Court. It has made me even more aware of the procedure and functioning of the Supreme Court. It is a very beneficial designation if one qualifies for the exam because it increases your value in the legal fraternity. AORs are given first preference while allocating chambers in the Supreme Court, which is beneficial because getting chambers within Court premises otherwise is very difficult. The appellate jurisdiction in the Supreme Court from all courts and tribunals is another advantage of becoming an AOR. When an appeal is filed in this Court, AORs come into play, and because of the adversity of appeals, an AOR can get hands-on experience about a lot of areas, a lot of things that get limited when you are an advocate and not an AOR. While we get a lot of exposure and opportunities on behalf of the party, we need to be very careful because the onus is on the AOR if there are any discrepancies in conducting the case. Becoming an AOR has added value to my career, where I can now fully practice advocacy in the Supreme Court. This has also benefitted me on the knowledge front, as I am now even more well-versed with the Supreme Court's judgments.      7. What is your suggestion for advocates who are looking forward to becoming an AOR? How should they go about it? If you are looking forward to being an AOR, you should be ready for challenges that would come your way because the journey to becoming an AOR is undoubtedly not easy. One should take advantage of training under the AOR, as understanding the practice and procedure is deepened during this time. One should sharpen their drafting skills as much as possible during this training period and be well-versed with all the latest judgments delivered by the Supreme Court. The AOR syllabus lists the leading cases required to be known by the aspirant. However, there is no harm in learning about the latest judgments, apart from the list provided. Questions can also come from the latest judgments; hence knowledge is essential for this exam. Of course, you have to brush up on certain Acts and Rules because while you may be applying them in your practice, you sometimes don't know the exact rule or where to find it until you study them carefully. This includes the Supreme Court Rules, 2013, the Advocates Act, 1961 and Bar Council of India Rules. The Supreme Court conducts a few sessions before the exam, which a senior usually heads. The aspirants must attend these sessions to get their doubts clarified and prepare with other aspirants. I found the sessions very helpful. Preparing alongside practicing in the court as an advocate is tricky because you do not get leaves to prepare for this exam. However, this is a challenge that can be overcome by prioritizing time. Time management is an important factor whilst preparing for this exam, and once you attain that quality, it is not difficult to pass this exam and become an AOR. It is suggested trying to start slightly in advance, by March or April, so that you can slowly begin to going through the material before the beginning of the summer break.  Last moment preparation is never good, so the aspirant should stay consistent while preparing and regularly read and update oneself about the judiciary's latest developments. Read more about the AOR exam, the toughest exams in India here.

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Building a Career in Maritime Law - with Kingshuk Halder
Mar 01, 2021
Building a Career in Maritime Law - with Kingshuk Halder

The growth in the legal sector has broadened the areas where a law professional can work. Niche areas like Space Law, Air Law, Fashion Law, Food Law, Maritime law, etc., are becoming more popular. Kingshuk Halder has been a part of many prestigious educational institutions and a successful corporate lawyer. This interview with him aims to give you an idea of building a career in maritime law in India. The interview highlights his experience working in Deloitte, his experience as an LL.M student at one of the top private university in Gujarat, Gujarat Maritime University, and his job profile as a maritime lawyer.   1. Please tell us a bit about yourself. I am from Jamshedpur, Jharkhand, and I completed my graduation (B.A. LL.B) in 2016 from Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology (KIIT) Bhubaneshwar, one of the top private university in Odisha. I specialized in business and corporate laws and got placed with Deloitte India, offices of the U.S. in Hyderabad, through campus recruitment. I worked there for three years. Despite liking the work there, I was always keen on Maritime Law. I appeared for CLAT P.G and got through Gujarat Maritime University (GMU). It was in its nascent stage back then. My batch was the first one-year Maritime Law LL.M batch at GMU. I also hold an executive MBA degree from IIM Calcutta, which I got through Deloitte. I resigned from Deloitte after deciding to pursue my Master's. I have also worked at GMS, Dubai, one of the most reputed maritime organizations globally.   2. What was your first job? How did you crack it? What was the experience like? When I learned about the Big Fours in my law school, I naturally aspired to work in one of them. When Deloitte, Top 10 Best Companies in India came to our University for campus recruitment, eighteen people participated in the selection process, and only four got selected, including me. The selection process comprised of two rounds of group discussions and three rounds of interviews. Each round was followed by elimination. Group discussion topics were not specifically legal. They were the kinds of topics one ought to know as a law student and a fresher. For example, one of the G.D. topics related to EU GDPR and Data Privacy concerns around Facebook. Data Privacy is a hot topic now. Back then, it wasn't. The last round of interview was with the Vice President of Deloitte India, Offices of the U.S.    Experience at Deloitte I was a part of Deloitte's legal forensics and investigation team that worked on white-collar crime investigations. We worked closely with chartered accountants and checked documents for averting possible white-collar frauds. As a fresher, I was predisposed to a lot of training. There are mandatory training hours that everyone has to complete despite their position in the organization. They have regular courses on leadership, communications, and several other topics, offered by Harvard University, the oldest educational institution in the United States and other reputed institutions. I, too, took many courses, including the Executive MBA. Deloitte is one of the best places to work for a fresher. They treat their employees with great respect and care. They take a genuine interest in the learning curve of their employees. They have an alumni base for their ex-employees. They want to hear about how we are doing and attempt to help us despite us not being a part of the organization anymore. Deloitte believes in its employees' holistic development and treats them as a family, and hence it has been one of my best work experiences so far.   3. What exactly is Maritime Law, and why did you decide to quit your corporate job and pursue an LLM in Maritime Law? From a layman's perspective, 'Maritime' is beyond the shores, beneath and over the sea. Maritime Law governs international trade, shipping, or anything related to the sea. Maritime Law is not a new concept. Even when we did not have airplanes, we had ships and boats to transport things from one place to another. The shipping industry is ancient, and the laws of the same started developing about 500 years ago. Interested candidates should read more into the 'Lloyds of London' case to understand the origination and genesis of this concept. To summarize, Maritime Law governs international trade, shipping, or anything that relates to the sea. Maritime Law is further divided into public and private international law covered by United Nations conventions of Sea and International Court of Justice. While one part of Maritime Law deals with policies, the other aspect is the commercial one, which a maritime lawyer typically deals with. The major problem with shipping is the jurisdiction involved. There are instances where one consignment has to be shipped from one port to another. In this journey, there are around 4-5 ports, which entails many jurisdictions in between. If the consignment is damaged while shipping in the sea, who is to tell which jurisdiction the matter falls under? This is where we step in to eliminate loopholes and make internationally substantial contracts to avoid repercussions arising out of confusion in the jurisdiction.   Reason for quitting the corporate job I had a fascination for the Indian Navy when I was a kid and even thought of pursuing a career on those lines. Even during my law studies, I followed the Indian Navy and its developments. I was surfing through the CLAT website to check for universities that accepted CLAT scores. This was when I saw the name of Gujarat Maritime University on the list. I was pleasantly surprised. I researched some more about the University and decided to go ahead with the LL.M in Maritime Law. In law school, I was of the impression that a corporate job gives you a sense of financial stability. Hence, I had stopped thinking of anything more until I stumbled upon this course. Soon, things fell into place, and accordingly, I decided to quit my corporate job.   4. Why Gujarat Maritime University for the LL.M? I could have gone to one of the top public universities in Singapore, the National University of Singapore or any university in the U.K or the west that offers the best courses on Maritime Law. However, I was thrilled when I came across the Government's vision for India's Maritime sector for 2030, involving port sector expansion and the Ministry's notifications for shipping. The fact that this was the only University in the country that provided this course, I could see the potential and the future growth of this University and this domain in India. The patriot in me could not let go of an opportunity like this. Hence, I decided to pursue my LL.M from GMU. Even when I was at the University, I was taught by naval captains, and the insights that I gained from their expertise were beyond my imagination. I got an opportunity to learn from the best!   5. What is the scope of Maritime Law in India and abroad for an Indian lawyer? What kind of earnings can one expect? Everything in the world can stop but not international trade. When we talk about scope, we need to know that even when industries were shut because of the Pandemic, shipping was still functioning to an extent. India had oil imports even when the whole country was on lockdown. That is how we got the fuel to run our vehicles all these months. Even in a global pandemic, while everything came to a halt, trade did not. When the trade doesn't stop, maritime doesn't either. India has many ports; Gujarat has 48 ports, Maharashtra, West Bengal, Chennai - all of these states form a necklace-shaped coastline. Each port is active, whether it is for domestic or international trade. When I talk about international trade, I would recommend that readers visit the Ministry of Trade and Commerce website and look at the trade deals that India signs every day. Minimum 70- 80% of the trade happens via sea and not air because of a low cost incurred than airfares for shipping consignments. Another thing to know is that not a single ship that enters or leaves the Indian border exists without insurance. This is where Marine Insurance comes into the picture. Another area and application of the law is the Law of Contract. For trade by sea, several contracts have to be drafted and signed. Maritime Law is not a 9 to 5 job. Due to the admiralty jurisdiction, emergency cases can arise in any country at any point in time, and the lawyer must be prepared. Maritime is not like any other field. What I mean by Admiralty Jurisdiction is that only the High Courts of coastal areas can entertain a maritime dispute. The High Courts themselves are the lowest courts for maritime disputes, with appeals going to the Supreme Court; district courts do not have a role to play here. The following High Courts in India have jurisdiction in maritime matters- Bombay Gujarat Kerala Karnataka Hyderabad Telangana Orissa Madras Calcutta Even though the court matters are litigation matters, 80-90% of them are covered by Arbitration. A significant reason for this is that often there are many stakeholders involved and many of the maritime law matters have to be dealt with on an urgent basis. Given the way litigation functions, waiting for court hearings can cause a lot more damage to the dispute than that has already ensued. We almost always have ADR clauses in our contracts as a standard. This has led to the growth of ADR, particularly Arbitration. The ambit of maritime law is not just confined to the sea, but everything around it as well. Whether it is in India or abroad, maritime lawyers are needed because trading through the sea will never cease.   Earnings Concerning the earnings, it is essential to note that there is an international demand for maritime lawyers, and the exposure is also on a global level. Different jurisdictions are involved. Earning depends on one's caliber and how well one can leverage their skills and knowledge to this field of law. Sometimes, in Arbitration, when the dispute involves a few million dollars, and you charge a certain percentile of the amount, you may perhaps be able to buy yourself a mansion! However, that is not all. There is a lot of work here, and nothing is as merry as one might deem it to be. A maritime lawyer doesn't get to be a part of the voyages that ships make, as a few may think. Instead, we are there to aid the voyage. This profession pays well if you are consistent with updating your knowledge bank with international treaties and policies. Having done this, the sky is the limit to one's financial prosperity!   6. What kind of work can a Maritime Lawyer expect? Are there location constraints and travel requirements? Work One needs to understand that several sectors are involved in the maritime industry. The work depends on what field one has chosen. A few sectors to name are: Shipowning companies Insurance Protection and Indemnity (P&I) Clubs Law firms Ship recycling industry Charters of vessels All of these sectors work collectively in maritime, but their work profile differs. Law Firms deal with a lot of things altogether owing to the man force available. A maritime lawyer can expect insurance work if he's into insurance or examining indemnity if working under P&I Club; each piece of work has different merits. The lawyer needs to be thorough with his interest in maritime law, whether it is insurance, contracts, solving disputes under Private International Law, etc. However, this is not all. One has to know the ship, the exterior, and its interior, to understand a few cases that may arise due to dysfunction in the vessel. While legal knowledge is necessary, interest in the vessel and understanding its function and technicalities is also equally important. As maritime lawyers, we do not get a chance to work directly with Navy JAG officers, as a few may think. The Indian Navy has a different branch for lawyers working for them; we get in touch with them wherever there is a case that requires it. Otherwise, a maritime lawyer has nothing to do with any other sector but his own.   Working conditions and travel requirement A maritime advocate or an arbitrator might have to travel internationally in case of a dispute; it depends on the fate of the case that the lawyer is handling. Furthermore, it is also essential to note that the lawyers involved in maritime law work offshore (office set-up) and do not live in ships. The permissions to enter vessels are governed by strict International Maritime Organization (IMO) standards.    7. What is your suggestion for students/professionals who want to pursue Maritime Law? Check where your interest lies. Maritime is something which is not very common. It will require your attention and time. Consider it only if your interest lies with respect to ships, sea, cargo damage, insurance, contracts, etc. One should be aware of international law, international treaties, etc. The jurisdiction in maritime law is global, and thus, an interested candidate should have a broad spectrum of knowledge and be open to expanding their interests. This is a nice domain to work in, and I can very well state that sea is the limit if one decides to pursue it in the long run.

  • Bhavya Bhatt Bhavya Bhatt
LAMP Fellowship and Law School Journeys in India and the US - An Interview with Harsh Bajpai
Feb 05, 2021
LAMP Fellowship and Law School Journeys in India and the US - An Interview with Harsh Bajpai

Harsh Bajpai completed his undergrad degree in law in India, his Master's in the US, and is currently pursuing a Ph.D. in the UK. Talk about going places! But that's not what compelled us to speak with him. Harsh's experience is so varied that we wouldn't be out of line to call it adventurous even. From being a LAMP Fellow under Derek O Brian's guidance to working in the ECOSOC to now working around 'facial recognition,' if anything, Harsh's experience shows us that there are so many work areas research to be explored for a lawyer. In an interview with us, Harsh gives us details about his experience so far, emphasizing the LAMP fellowship.   1. Please tell us a bit about yourself. I am Harsh Bajpai; I am from Kanpur, Uttar Pradesh. I completed my Bachelor's from Symbiosis Law School Noida, one of the best law colleges in India and immediately after that, I did my Master's at George Washington University. I was working there as a short-term consultant in ECOSOC (Economic and Social Security Council). When I was in the US, I saw that many US nationals interned under judges or did fellowships under Congress members. I was fascinated by this. That was when I became aware of the LAMP (Legislative Assistant to Member of Parliament) fellowship. I applied for it, got accepted, and joined the same. I got the fellowship under Derek O Brian. I returned to India after my Master's to pursue this one-year-long fellowship. After this, I worked as a Policy Officer at the Center for Internet and Society New Delhi, one of the top research centres in New Delhi for nine months. I got my first permanent job at the Dialogue as a Program Manager, where I worked around Internet Governance and Cybersecurity. In 2019, I decided to pursue my Ph.D. from Durham Law School, owing to my previous workaround technology law. My Ph.D. offers to work around biometric technologies, including facial recognition and emotional AI, specifically in the Indian education sector.  I am evaluating the meaning of 'Panopticon,' a concept developed by Michael Foucault, one of the most influential and controversial scholars of the post-World War II period in the Indian education context.   2. How was your law school experience in Washington? How was it different from your experience in India? In India, law school was a pleasant experience. I just happened to choose law because of my parents' advice since I did not want to pursue engineering or medicine. Law happened by chance for me, but I did have a lot of interest in Social Sciences at my school level. The transition from India to the US was very different, to be honest. I wouldn't say India was terrible, or Washington was very good, but it was really very different. I wasn't planning to do LL.M immediately after my Bachelor's, but I got a scholarship, and things just followed. The offer was tempting, considering the college and the city I would get to live in. I did my Master's in International Law, technology law being my optional subject. In the world’s best western countries, especially in America, they follow a 'Socratic' method of teaching. The Socratic method is where there are limits on the number of students who can sit in the class. Also, there were specific seats in every class where one could sit, and one wasn't allowed to  change his/her seats for an entire semester. I had to go entirely prepared for the classes, which was not easy for me initially. In India, we are not usually told what we would study the next day, but this is not the US case. For example, if there are three classes the next day, you are expected to read 70 pages for each of the classes, meaning about 210 pages the night before. Although it seemed tedious initially, I now realize how much this has helped me. I am now habituated to reading, which is amazing for the profession that I am in. Some people who had been part of wars or were a part of the UN were studying with me or were a part of the teaching faculty, which was indeed a very enlightening experience!   3. Could you please tell us a bit about your LAMP fellowship experience and the procedure to apply for the same? LAMP stands for 'Legislative Assistant to a Member of Parliament.' It is a fellowship that offers youth a chance to expose themselves to law-making and public policy. LAMP fellows are mentored by a Member of Parliament (MP). They are expected to work full-time under the assigned MP from the Monsoon Session of the Parliament until the Budget session. The application process begins in January. E.g., for the 2021 intake, applications end on 17th January 2021. The applicant has to fill out a form detailing: 1) Demographic Information 2) Educational Information, 3) Work Experience (includes internships) & 4) Essay 1 - Why do you want to Join LAMP Fellowship, 5) Essay 2 - On any legal or policy-related issue. It is the first round of application in which applicants are selected for the interview round. During the interview process, applicants are generally expected to have detailed knowledge of his/her state's politics and general knowledge of Indian politics/Parliament. In furtherance of that, if you have a sound understanding of what you have written in Essay 1 and 2, better are your chances of selection. It is a highly competitive process in which importance is given to representation in terms of gender and the course stream from which you have graduated. An engineering graduate has an equal chance of getting selected as a philosophy or a law graduate. This fellowship is open for Indian candidates below 25 years of age and have a Bachelor's degree in any discipline.   4. What was your day like as a LAMP fellow? I was lucky enough to be part of the team under Derek O Brien. Initially, I was allotted another Trinamool Congress (TMC) MP - Nadimul Haque. Since Derek Sir is the Vice-President of TMC, I used to work from his office and report daily to both the MPs. If the Parliament is in session, the Fellow has to reach the MP's residence early for the morning briefing as sometimes your MP might be scheduled to speak that day or a vital Bill might be raised in that session. I personally promised myself that I would improve my knowledge of Economics (as I am a graduate of law), so I used to reach the office at 7 am and read newspapers (you might get served some tea and breakfast in the MP's residence too). By 9-9:30 am, other staff members start coming in. These staff members would assign us tasks on behalf of the MP. We must keep ourselves updated every morning with news (especially from Lok/Rajya Sabha TV). We have our morning briefing with the MP and then get on with watching the Parliament's proceedings, in person or from the MP's residence. The rest of the day is spent framing debates, zero-hour questions, research on policy discussions, etc. Training in these matters is provided to a fellow before joining the fellowship. After the Parliament proceedings, if the next day is expected to be hectic, an evening briefing takes place, and you might be piled with work just as you are about to leave! But then, there are only 3-4 Parliamentary sessions in a year, and this is what you joined the fellowship for! If the Parliament is not in session, the days are much more relaxed. It gives you time to learn the law, economics, or whatever you are interested in, as one or the other thing will help you later. E.g., economics helped me understand the budget session in greater depth. We also prepare questions for question hour for the next session, as we are expected to submit them before the session starts. There are certain visits to constituencies planned by PRS Legislative Research, a fellowship programme run by PRS Legislative Research. I went to Baramati, Sharad Pawar's constituency, and is now his daughter, Supriya Sule's. However, if an applicant wants to only work under specific top shot MPs, they should not apply for the fellowship, as there are several State MPs both in the Lok Sabha and the Rajya Sabha who are doing great work. PRS Legislative Research (Founder of LAMP Fellowship) selects an MP cohort based on their attendance, number of debates taken part in, number of questions asked, etc.; so, all the MPs are equally amazing to work with.   5. What's your intake from this fellowship? In the 26 years of my life, this is the most important and most beneficial experience I have had! Apart from just giving you an award of fellowship, it teaches you various things: Hard-work: I know it is a cliché term, but to work day in and day out and to see your debate pointers/questions, etc., being asked in the Parliament, is very rewarding. Awareness:  I never read so many newspapers, never watched Rajya Sabha or Lok Sabha TV, or listened to parliamentary sessions. Just the wealth of information I aggregated through this experience was tremendous. Knowing how our democracy works or even getting closer to understanding how it works, whether the pitfalls or the high points, has helped me understand the society we live in better. Connections: From meeting such a fantastic cohort of fellows sharing food during training to learning politics, to the constituency visits, and finally to networking with PRS, MPs, and their staff, this has indeed been an enriching experience!

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Building a Career in Arbitration - Insights from Adv Tariq Khan
Jan 26, 2021
Building a Career in Arbitration - Insights from Adv Tariq Khan

There is no denying that with time, alternative dispute resolution methods have gained a lot of popularity. This is particularly so in the case of Arbitration. Arbitration is a procedure in which a dispute is submitted, by agreement of the parties, to one or more arbitrators who make a binding decision on the dispute. In choosing Arbitration, the parties opt for a private dispute resolution procedure instead of going to court.[1] Advocate Tariq Khan gives us insights into Arbitration as a career path and the emerging trends in the sector: a highly educative read for Arbitration aspirants and law students who would like to learn more.    1. Please tell us a bit about yourself. I am a Principal Associate at Advani and Co. I deal in international and domestic arbitrations, MSME disputes, writs, commercial, employment, insolvency, and bankruptcy laws. I have handled arbitrations under SIAC (Singapore International Arbitration Centre) Rules, ICC (International Chamber of Commerce) Rules, DIAC (Delhi International Arbitration Centre) Rules, ICA (Indian Council of Arbitration) Rules, etc. I have also taught ADR as a guest faculty for the past six years in top-ranked law colleges in India including the Indian Law Institute (2016-2018), National Institute of Finance & Management (2020-present), Lloyd Law College (2018-Present), etc. I am frequently invited by bar associations of several districts and law colleges to deliver lectures on Arbitration. I have also written more than 50 articles on Arbitration, which have been published by various journals and popular legal news portals. I was recently recognized as the Youngest BW (Business World) “Legal 40 under 40”, 2020.   2. Was it in law school that you decided you want to pursue a career in Arbitration, or was it after passing out? How did you arrive at this decision? I did not choose Arbitration as a career; Arbitration chose me. If I’m totally honest, during my college, I did not have any idea about Arbitration as I had not studied Arbitration as a subject since it was not a part of our syllabus. During my final exams, I applied for a job at Advani and Co., the oldest law firm specializing in India's arbitration practice. Since then, I have been working closely with the firm's managing partner Mr. Hiroo Advani and Mr. Shashank Garg (Partner, Delhi office). I unintentionally started laying the groundwork for my career in Arbitration when I joined Advani & Co. However, this initial involvement motivated me to pursue a career in Arbitration. I must add that my approach was to learn as much as I could about International and Domestic Arbitration and to begin to network with those already practicing in the field of Arbitration.   3. What are your views on Arbitration in India? How has this domain changed in the past five years? Despite the existence of various arbitral institutions, institutional Arbitration in India remains in a nascent stage, which is evident from the fact that almost 90% of arbitrations in India are ad hoc. The main reasons for parties being reluctant in approaching these institutions are lack of awareness about the advantages of institutional Arbitration over ad hoc arbitration, outdated rules of procedures, and poor infrastructure. To ensure an efficient arbitral mechanism and see it grow substantially in the near future, young lawyers' appointment as arbitrators must be encouraged. The government has taken steps to make India the hub of International Arbitration. However, a larger issue has been missed, i.e., why India is languishing for decades and has not become an arbitration hub. In my view, the emphasis is put only on cities like Delhi and Mumbai, and that the concerns of other towns that need an arbitration culture and institutions are not addressed. We must also promote arbitration culture in Kanpur, Lucknow, Ahmedabad, Kolkata, Jaipur, etc. if we want to make India a hub of Arbitration. Additionally, we must also learn from the development of the best three arbitral institutions, i.e., ICC, SIAC, and LCIA, that have a huge number of cases, growth in revenue, etc. (e.g., SIAC's case filings have increased by over 300% in the last ten years). Therefore, arbitral institutions in India must adopt modern rules, make effective use of technology, and provide an organized structure of proceedings, excellent administrative support, and good infrastructure. Additionally, ease of doing business in India also needs to be facilitated to provide a solid base and ensure longevity.  Not only will it make India the hub, but it also creates a dynamic arbitration culture. Stakeholders will also have an important role to play in shaping up the future of Arbitration in India. For instance, lawyers must understand that the practice of challenging every arbitral award must be discouraged, and the focus should not be on getting more work from one client by filing frivolous challenges to the award. Instead, we must focus on making Arbitration more effective, which will eventually generate more work as there will be more investment.   4. Did the fate of Arbitration change during the Pandemic? Did the number of arbitration matters increase post-COVID-19 Crisis? The COVID-19 Pandemic created a chaotic situation concerning timelines and schedules in arbitration matters all across the globe. Physical hearings have been taking place for a long time, and that’s why we are used to it. If you see Arbitration's journey and how it has progressed, it has been evolving from time to time. Suppose you compare how arbitration hearings were conducted fifteen years ago. In that case, there is a total paradigm shift depending on various exigencies, including the introduction of concepts like emergency arbitrations, fixed time period, arb-med-arb, med-arb, etc., for making arbitration mechanism more effective and suitable for parties.  From that perspective, we must take virtual hearings as a development rather than seeing it as something that has been imposed on the parties. As far as the negative impacts are concerned, I feel that in many arbitrations where the record is voluminous, especially during cross-examination, the witness will have to be confronted with various documents. A physical hearing will be desirable. Other negative impacts can be that the arbitrator may not see the witness and the examiner's conduct during cross-examination the way it can be seen in a physical hearing. Further, many lawyers and arbitrators are not proficient in technology, making virtual hearings very inconvenient.  Nevertheless, wherever possible, I feel virtual hearings will be more convenient and will make Arbitration a preferred dispute resolution method in India.   5. What are the emerging trends in Arbitration post the Pandemic that you are witnessing? This Pandemic has called for various changes, including conducting virtual hearings. To ensure resolution of disputes, certain proceedings were conducted using virtual mediums. However, there have been multiple issues in virtual hearings, especially in cases where evidence was being recorded. In a case, the parties refused to go ahead with cross-examination via video conferencing. In some cases, after the evidence was recorded, the counsel requested the tribunal to disregard the testimony as the cross-examination was not recorded properly. Even before the Pandemic came into existence, the need to adopt technological advancements was relevant and growing to save time and costs. Transcription services in arbitration hearings are very common in international arbitrations as it saves a lot of time. Since nobody was prepared for the Pandemic and nobody anticipated that virtual mediums would become the primary tool for conducting hearings, there is no robust virtual setup or proper guidelines for conducting such hearings. Technologies that ensure accuracy and help conduct face-to-face interactions between parties, witnesses and arbitrators, without malfunctions and setbacks, need to be developed.   6. In the upcoming years, do you think there is a chance of Arbitration becoming the most preferred mode of Dispute Resolution, even more than Litigation? Most definitely, yes! Fali S Nariman, one of India's most distinguished constitutional lawyers once quoted that “the future of arbitration is bright because the future of litigation is not.” Arbitration is increasing day by day as many fresh law graduates and even practicing lawyers are moving towards Arbitration. Party autonomy, flexibility, confidentiality, and time-bound resolution of disputes are the key reasons why Arbitration has already become the preferred mode of dispute resolution. In almost every commercial contract, we see Arbitration's dispute resolution, which shows that Arbitration has become a popular choice. Especially foreign investors who invest billions of dollars in our country and prefer that a dispute arises, it is resolved expeditiously.   7. How different is having a career in Arbitration from one in Litigation here in India? Litigation in India is more technical, complex, and revolves primarily around the law's procedural aspects. In contrast, Arbitration is very flexible, less technical, and strict rules of evidence and procedure do not apply. Unlike Litigation, where parties have very little role to play, Arbitration is pyramided on the concept of part autonomy, which means freedom of parties. Thus, parties decide how they want to resolve their dispute and who will resolve it. Therefore, a career in Arbitration is very different from having a career in Litigation. More indulgences may be given to a seasoned lawyer in a court of law since he would have command over the procedural laws. Contrary to that, in Arbitration, even a young lawyer can make a mark as it is not technical and depends substantially on a particular case's documents and merits. Arbitration is very convenient as the timing can be fixed according to availability, unlike protracted Litigation. A matter is taken upon its turn. It cannot be denied that Arbitration and Litigation go hand in hand as Arbitration from time to time has to approach the court for seeking interim reliefs, appointment, and challenge to the arbitrator, challenge to the award, enforcement, etc. Therefore, an arbitration practitioner will eventually have to practice in courts as well, even in relation to an arbitration matter.   8. What is your suggestion to law students/freshers who are seeking to make a career in Arbitration? The harder you work, the luckier you will get. There is no substitute for hard work. Believe in yourself and focus on possibilities rather than on limitations. During their internships, I believe law students should put in two hundred percent efforts in whatever task is assigned to them. These efforts will be acknowledged and appreciated and will eventually help in securing a position in the most prestigious law firms in India. Needless to say that smart work coupled with hard work is the ultimate combination. These days, young aspirants have so many opportunities to make a niche for themselves, including but not limited to writing articles on essential aspects of the law. If a student is interested in pursuing a career in Arbitration, he could actively participate in arbitration conferences associated with groups like Young ICCA, ICC YAF, YSIAC, etc. Attending these conferences and joining such groups help not only in gaining practical knowledge and technicalities but also help in building connections. Additionally, participate in the best Moot Court Competitions involving your area of interest, attend conferences and events (either as a participant or volunteer), join diploma or online courses in specialized subjects, read important judgments and articles which will keep you updated.   [1] https://www.wipo.int/amc/en/arbitration/what-is-arb.html  

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New LL.M Rules by BCI - What does the legal fraternity think?
Jan 10, 2021
New LL.M Rules by BCI - What does the legal fraternity think?

A Master of Laws (LL.M, Legum Magister) is considered an advanced, post-graduate academic degree. It is usually pursued by those who hold an undergraduate degree in law or in subjects related to the LLM being applied for. While the LL.B (Legum Bachelors or Bachelor's of Law) is enough for an individual to practice law in India, many people pursue LL.M degrees, for various reasons, such as, to develop a career in academia or research, or to gain further specialized knowledge in a given area of law, etc. Traditionally, any master’s program in India takes around two years to complete. Even LL.M, before 2013, had courses that went on for two years, divided into four semesters. However, in January 2013, the UGC introduced LL.M courses of one-year duration, just like in many other countries such as the UK and the USA. While it was a relief for students to have saved one year while studying LL.M, the Bar Council of India (BCI) has decided to change this system going forward.   What does the BCI say? The new Bar Council of India Legal Education (Post Graduate, Doctoral, Executive, Vocational, Clinical, and other Continuing Education) Rules, 2020 state that BCI, as a body now shall regulate Post Graduate and Other Higher Education in Law, since legal education has been excluded from being regulated by the National Higher Education Regulatory Council (NHERC) and the Higher Education Commission of India (HECI), after the incoming of the New Education Policy (NEP) 2020. It states that on the advice of the Legal Education Committee (LEC),  the BCI shall appoint a Special Sub-Committee for implementing these Regulations under the BCI and the LEC’s overall control. There are a few crucial points about LL.M in these Rules. They are :    Chapter II states that the Entry Level Qualification for LL.M has to be either three-year or the five-year LL.B. BCI has made it clear that the post-graduate course in law, leading to a master’s degree (LL.M), has to be of two years’ duration spreading over four semesters. This further establishes that the LL.M one year, which was introduced in 2013 (as per the UGC notification), will remain operative only for the current academic year. LL.M course is only restricted to law graduates. Any other master's degree specializing in a particular area of law where the pre-requisite is not an undergraduate in law will not be considered an LL.M. BCI has brought forward the concept of a Post Graduate Common Entrance Test in Law (PGCETL) and has stated that it may conduct this test for admission in masters degree course in law in all universities. Once it gets implemented, students shall be admitted based on the merit list subject to rules of classification and reservation in the state concerned. LL.M degree obtained from any foreign university is not equivalent to Indian LL.M degree. However, one year LL.M degree obtained after an equivalent LL.B degree from any ‘highly accredited’ Foreign University may entitle the person concerned to be appointed as a visiting professor in an Indian University for at least 1 year. When this 1 year of teaching experience as a visiting professor is completed, the Foreign University LL.M Degree may be considered equivalent.   What do legal professionals think? We decided to ask a few legal professionals about their opinions on these new LL.M Rules by the BCI, and here is what they have to say –   Abhinav Barthwal, present (1yr)  LL.M candidate – University of Buckingham, one amongst the oldest private universities in England  "The BCI is well empowered to introduce the changes as it is now the sole regulator of legal education at all levels after the NEP 2020. However, these powers should have been exercised after due consultation with the authorities and students. This notification, which prima facie appears to be drafted in haste, has completely perplexed the students and academicians alike. This decision does not fall in line with the Indian education sector's aspiration to be on par with globally reputed educational regimes that offer high-quality education within a year. Does prolonging the duration guarantee an enhancement in the quality of education imparted? What it is surely going to do is to dissuade law students from pursuing the LLM. Personally, I would not have opted for a degree of Master’s in Law had the duration been two years. But luckily, it was only one year in my case. The BCI should reconsider and take this decision back in light of its practical implications. If this is not done, the BCI should alleviate the fears of LL.M aspirants by clarifying how the increased duration of the course is going to help them secure a place of themselves in this highly competitive market and these uncertain times."   Saransh Chaturvedi, present (2yr) LL.M Candidate – Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur, one of the top premier institutes in India "I feel that LL.M is not just a degree for academia but also for others who want to strengthen their understanding of subjects. Now there are two angles from which I see these Rules about LLM. The first one is from Employment, and the second is research. From the employment perspective, I do not welcome this move. The reason being I, an LL.M graduate who prefers not to go into academia, will also stand on the same level as that of a 5-year LLB grad in a company. We'll be getting paid on similar lines, so I don't see the need for a 2-year LL.M just for me to get a job because not everyone will go into academia. From the research point, I can understand why BCI must have thought about imposing 2-year LL.M. The thing is, when you do a 2-year LL.M, you have an entire last two semesters to work on your thesis. It means more work around the research. A 2-year LL.M will surely help an individual have better research skills that a 1-year LL.M student might not have, owing to the dearth of time. But do I support Rule 6[1], if you may think? No. Scrapping off is not certainly an option because I think one should at least get a say in what they want to study. I had the option between 1- year and 2-year LL.M because I wanted to strengthen my research, and I chose the latter, but I feel BCI shouldn't take this privilege away from students."   Kingshuk Halder, an Ex-Deloitte and a fresher (1 year) LL.M graduate in Maritime Laws from Gujarat Maritime University, one of the top maritime colleges in India. "I have studied Maritime Laws in my Master's, which was only for 1 year. I have to say that the things I learned here in just a span of 1 year have changed me as a professional. I don't see the point of increasing two more semesters when it is possible for us to learn everything concisely in just two semesters. For those who think you need to spend more time in a course like LL.M, that's not true. Maritime Laws doesn't have a 2-year master's course yet, and I feel it's unnecessary. If I had the chance of choosing the 2-year LL.M or 1-year LL.M in maritime laws, I'd still go for one despite the availability, because after studying Law for five years, I think I'd like to save some time while I pursued my Master's. When the whole of the western world is progressing, I don't see the point of 4-semester, 2-year LL.M because it doesn't make sense at this point."     Ansh Singh Luthra holds an LL.M from the University of Cambridge, one of the top public universities in Cambridge presently an advocate at the High Court of Delhi. "I think that a lot of thought needs to go into these rules. For instance, why would an advocate want to incorporate his credit points on his business card (referring to Rule 17 where BCI may run a Continuing Education). My client would focus on whether I can get him relief or not; he wouldn't care much about my credit points. I do welcome the thought behind continuing legal education, but the rules must be re-worked to make them practical. Getting to the LL.M rules, right now, there is no date from when 1-year LL.M would be scrapped. However, I don't welcome the move to change the LLM program's duration from one to two years. There is no statistical or empirical analysis on the basis of which they've introduced this new 2- year LLM program. What is the practical benefit of this Rule? Will the students get better placements on graduation? Will they have a higher intellect if they study for two years instead of one? It is still very ambiguous and unstructured. It's essential that stakeholders are consulted and the rules re-worked to make them more practical and implementable. Only time will tell us how these rules pan out."   Chhaya Bharadwaj holds an LL.M in Environmental Law from Vermont Law School and is currently a Lecturer at Jindal Global Law School. "When I read the notification, I thought the objective of this was to make the quality of education better, but I don't see how increasing the number of semesters would improve the quality of education. Because if we go by that logic, then a 5-year LL.B degree would hold a superior position than that of a 3-year LL.B, but that is also not the case. Secondly, during the Pandemic,  Universities and regulators worldwide are working towards making education accessible and more effortless. This regulation may make it difficult for universities and students to transition from two semesters to four semesters. Thirdly, given LL.M. is the first degree to a research/academic career, the regulators could build a curriculum and its implementation to develop research and teaching skills within that one year. The regulation seems to discriminate amongst the foreign 1- year LLM degree holders and Indian 2-year LLM degree holders. If this regulation's impact is the acceptance of both degrees, it might make more sense to allow 1- year LL.M. in India and add another year of teaching as mandatory."   Jayant Bhatt holds an LL.M  from NUS, Singapore, and an LL.M  from NYU School of Law, presently a practicing advocate in Delhi. "There has to be some data collection which has influenced BCI's decision to scrap the 1-year LL.M, but to my knowledge, nothing of that sort is available on the public domain, so I don't understand why they need to go back to 2-year when 1-year LL.M was doing perfectly fine in the country. The cons over here would be an extreme financial burden on students, their parents to finance two more semesters, and in this Pandemic, it is a challenge. I also don't see how the extension of two more semesters will turn out on the students' job front. I am certain that no one can guarantee placement after two years because even 1-year LL.M graduates are seen struggling, so why this? Also, how is mandating two more semesters going to contribute to a student's intellect? We live in an age where we need to reduce time in academics and spend more time on practicality. I understand that this move might focus on a detailed and in-depth study of the discipline, and there is more likely to be a better student-teacher ratio, but wholly, taking away the 1-year LL.M is making no sense to me."   Divya Swamy holds an LL.M in Competition Law and Market Regulations, from NLU, Delhi, and is presently pursuing her PhD from RMLNLU, Lucknow "I believe that the 1-year LL.M was a very smart step to take specially because in most foreign universities, Master’s is a 10 month degree. This way, there was a parity with the rest of the world. However, there are a bunch of other factors that need consideration especially since Masters degrees are meant for research and higher jurisprudential understanding. Firstly, I don’t think the 5+2 or 5+1 system in itself is the ideal way to proceed. The 2 year period for Masters is necessary to encourage good research but a total of Six years of education to pursue law is sufficient. The idea should be to avoid brain drain of bright legal minds. So maybe, if they’re looking for an overhaul, then a 4+2 would be more effective or else some modifications to ensure that the 5 year bachelors degree also incorporates good research. Personally, while pursuing a 1-year LL.M., I felt that the pressure to write a good dissertation while not compromising on the quality  of my research and writing, was very high. So, while I do agree with the extension of 1-year LL.M but it makes sense if we look at the number of training years in an integrated manner, or else we might end up losing a lot of bright minds to the foreign markets. Secondly, I believe the BCI should give some time for the transition to happen, like around 3-4 years, so even colleges and universities can accordingly make changes in their curriculum. Keeping in view the pandemic and the fact that graduating batches are already coping with employment concerns, it is not the best time to bring about these rules."   Abhijit Nair holds an LL.M from GNLU, Gandhinagar and is presently an Assistant Professor at Presidency University, one of the top-ranked universities in Bengaluru. He is also a PhD candidate at NLSIU, Bangalore. "As someone who did my LL.M a couple of years ago and who has been in legal research and academics for more than two years now, I am not surprised that this has happened. The 1-year LL.M was introduced to prevent brain drain and to prevent people from going abroad to pursue Master’s. Still, the thing is, people are any which way pursuing LL.M from abroad and looking for opportunities abroad after 1-year LL.M, so why compromise on the integrity of the research and the degree? The reason I am saying this is because you have around nine papers and one dissertation in an LL.M, and honestly, there is very little time to concentrate on your dissertation, something that the 2-year LL.M takes care of! I am glad that I got to pursue the 1-year LL.M, three years after I graduated. The LL.M enabled me to get into teaching very quickly. However, with M.Phil being taken down, LL.M now has become a stepping stone research degree. So now, the 2-year LL.M makes perfect sense because there is no intermediate research degree between your LL.M  and Ph.D. Hence, the LL.M must form a foundation of the Ph.D., which can only be achieved by investing more time in Master’s. Come to think of it, every other Master's course in India is for two years, so a 2-year LL.M is not new! You are supposed to be an expert, you are supposed to specialize, and I think this is where this  Rule falls into place."   Summary These are the points we can take away from all the information at hand: 1. BCI has not produced any empirical or statistical data based on which these Rules are being introduced. 2. There is a mixed reaction to these changes, however, based only on the above opinions taken at random and from persons with varied career paths, majority seem not to be in favour of abolishing the 1-year LL.M programme.[2] 3. The fact that the pre-requisite degree to LL.M  itself spans over 5 years (integrated course) or 6 years (non-integrated), is also something that has been raised as a fact to be considered, in determining the duration of law studies. CLAT PG Papers: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qx2W-G5ozt_RlmDNfJtEXPPCWEa_MZ0b?usp=sharing CLAT UG Papers: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tMutyQog32QpOui24z2eT1S_eQNCMikQ?usp=sharing [1] Rule 6: One year Master Degree to be abolished. A Master Degree Program in Law of one year duration introduced in India in 2013(as per notification) by the University Grants Commission shall remain operative and valid until the Academic Session in which these Regulations are notified and implemented but not thereafter at any University throughout the country. [2] We started a small poll on Linkedin, which seems to be tilting in the same direction. Follow the poll here.

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Making a transition from Corporate Law to Litigation  - an interview with Firoz Berly
Dec 29, 2020
Making a transition from Corporate Law to Litigation - an interview with Firoz Berly

We have time and again heard our seniors in the profession tell us about how we must be careful when choosing our areas of specialisation and how making a transition at a later stage might be a challenge. We have also heard a lot about how a corporate job is very different from that of litigation. No matter how many years of experience you may have as a corporate lawyer, if you want to start over in litigation, you may have to start from scratch. For those of you looking for a change and wanting to take the leap, here is our conversation with Adv. Firoz Berly, ex- Ernst and Young GDS, who tells us how he made a sucessful transition from corporate law to litigation.   Please give us an introduction about yourself. My name is Firoz Berly, I graduated from the National University of Advanced Legal Studies, the first National Law University of Kerala in 2016 and started working with Thomson Reuters LMS as a contract drafting attorney, through our campus placement program. TRLMS was later acquired by Ernst and Young GDS and shortly after that transition, I left my role, at the Assistant Manager level.   Was there a particular reason that you chose to study law? The conventional education system that I had at that time prioritized the moulding of students into engineers and doctors. It worked against me and I ended up doing badly in school. However, I had a great aptitude for reading and consuming information. After I left school, my family and I were a bit confused on how to further my education and during that time one of my dad’s friends recommended that I take up law since I read a lot. And that’s how I chose law!   Was getting your first job, your actual preferred job when you passed out of law school? I honestly didn’t have a preference for the job that I wanted to take up. But I  think deep down, I knew the skillset that I wanted to gain. I wanted to write and speak well, so that I could clearly articulate my thoughts to the people around me. Because I believe that being able to clearly communicate with the community that you are in, helps translate certain things into action, for everyone’s benefit. So I took up the first job that would help me inculcate those habits that would get me to that skillset.   What made you switch from corporate to litigation? Within two years of my life in corporate, I gained a certain amount of knowledge which greatly changed my perception. Firstly, I realized that I was spending 10 hours a day (on an average) and using my intellect and energy, to help a profit-making entity gain more profits. I mean, sure, I was getting adequately paid for the job but it felt futile. Because after those 10 hours, I would use that money to reward myself with experiences that demanded the use of my salary. It ended up feeling like a vicious and unhealthy cycle to put myself in and I clearly wasn’t saving enough. After a point, I realized that it made more sense to make those 10 hours of work a reward in itself and for that, I needed a job (a) where I could be independent (b) where I could be of better service to the people around me (c) where my value increases even after reaching the average retirement age and (d) which was flexible. The second realization that I had, which is more personal, came during the CAA protests, the most prominent protests against the Citizenship (Amendment) Act in India that were happening across the country. I come from a community of Muslims and during that period I could see and feel fear, anger and discomfort gripping across young people from that community. It was clear that all of those emotions stemmed from a sense of helplessnes. That was when I realised, when the secular and welfare state that we grew up in, slowly shows signs of turning into an majoritarian and authoritarian state, we needed to have a better understanding of the law, especially, the criminal justice system. Because when you become a part of a community that is discriminated or marginalized, the law is the last line of defense before you end up becoming subservient or even, violent. It was these two realizations, that made me take up litigation. To become an independent individual, who could set his own terms and who had the necessary tools in hand to deal with the issues that he foresaw. Like the great writer and ethnobotanist, Terrence Mckenna said “A man without a plan, becomes a part of another man’s plan”.   Where do you work now and how did you get this role? I now work at one of the top Law Firms in Thiruvananthapuram, Dileep Sathyan & Associates in Trivandrum. I spoke to a few people in my batch who were doing litigation. I told them about my interests. One of their relatives connected me to his office.   How easy was the switch? To be honest, I panicked on my first day of litigation because it felt extremely different from the environment that I was in for the past 3 years. But within the first month I realized that both the roles were oddly similar - you are still interpreting the law, you are still dealing with clients and instead of arguing with other lawyers for your clients you are now in one way, arguing with judges. The only aspect that does feel difficult during the switch is the payout. You have to really grind and be patient to start getting that money in your hands, either from your client or from your senior advocate. For anyone, who is planning to make a switch, I would only ask them to consider one thing, i.e. whether they have the option to “leverage their privelege” and what I really mean is that, “Will your family be able to provide you money for shelter, food, clothes and transport for a period of 2-3 years?” Taking that into consideration, makes the switch easier.   Do you need different skills to pursue litigation, as compared to corporate? Nothing. Only interest. Everyone learns on the go.   Corporate Job is said to be a 9 to 5 job. Litigation has no such timing, and it is full time. Is this true? How did you manage to cope up with this dynamic change in timing, and what do you prefer? I think the very assumption that corporate is a 9 to 5 job is wrong. Atleast in the legal field, it’s not. As lawyers, the amount of time that you need to invest to help your clients is immense, just like doctors. The only difference is in the amount of mandated leaves that corporate provides for its employees. You don’t have that benefit while working in the litigation field. You do have court holidays, but you might end up working then too. So the change in timing didn’t feel that dynamic. However, I had to realign expectations with my loved ones. I had to make them understand that my timings would be a bit more unpredictable than it was in corporate and that I can’t take leaves as easily as I could before. Even though there is the grind and work timings are unpredictable, I still prefer the litigation field because I know that the time that I am investing now will adequately reward me later, in terms of flexibility and payout. And for anyone who does have more questions on these kind of transitions, feel free to write to me at [email protected]!

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